Stevens 200

Please realise that I have no issue that anyone wants to use whatever set up to shoot. AS LONG AS THEY ARE SHOOTING :)

If it shoots and you are competitive, good on you.

If you shoot and have fun, even better.

That is not the question I am asking and I am sure you know what I am getting at.

There are alot of things that we can materially identify as helping us shoot better. We can demonstrate it by putting holes in paper and comparing groups and/or scores.

And that is my point. Will XYZ this and that shoot BETTER then an ABC 123 within the rules of these disciplines? And if it does WHY? (Remember if there is a holy grail out there, I am all over it)

F class and other shooting sports is about holes in paper and getting teeny tiny repeatable groups with gear that fits into a set of rules. And we spend huge amounts of time and even more money trying to find THE answers.

So what do you get for your money spent?

As good as the member of Team Savage are, if their rifles will not hold the X ring over the course of some seriously long and demanding matches, no manner of skill will put them in the winners circle.

But once a rifle WILL hold the X ring, what more can that rifle possibly do for you?

Jerry
 
AKD said:
Agreed. I would however like to see advancements with the footing bolt from savage.

What kind of advancements ? I don't know. But I think it's a good direction.

Ps, mystic. I chose a sightron over a NF :p lol. You had some great points there.
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I am a tinkerer at heart and love nothing better then to find a better way of doing something. IF there was some part that would give me an advantage, even if is cost a huge amount more, I'm there.

Yes, I looked into MARCH scopes.....

I am competitive and do enjoy being on the podium with my piece of plastic.

Anything that hinders that process is changed or eliminated. But whatever I spend my money on better give me a tangible result.

What do you mean by footing bolt?

Every factory Savage/Stevens/Edge certainly needs a bit of TLC but they clean up very nicely.

Jerry
 
I ws out shooting my Stevens 200 .223 today. It is 100% stock at this point.

Just a quick question, has anyone else noticed that this gun is a completely different animal when you support the gun directly underneath the action screws? The stock is so flimsy that it truly seems when I place any pressure on the front of the stock, groups open up wildly. I also find that the less I touch the stock wih my cheek, the better my shots are. I attribute this to the weight of my cheek on the stock shifting the action around in the stock. Anyone else noticed this?
 
greg11 said:
I ws out shooting my Stevens 200 .223 today. It is 100% stock at this point.

Just a quick question, has anyone else noticed that this gun is a completely different animal when you support the gun directly underneath the action screws? The stock is so flimsy that it truly seems when I place any pressure on the front of the stock, groups open up wildly. I also find that the less I touch the stock wih my cheek, the better my shots are. I attribute this to the weight of my cheek on the stock shifting the action around in the stock. Anyone else noticed this?
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Stock touches barrel and affects harmonics.
Cheek weld = more consistant sight alignment therefore no paralax.
 
Gunslinger said:
Stock touches barrel and affects harmonics.
Cheek weld = more consistant sight alignment therefore no paralax.
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The barrel is free floated. I'm not talking about the barrel touching the stock. It doesn't. I'm just talking about how pressure placed on the front of the stock seems to transmit torque to the action screws because the stock is super flimsy. I shoot with both eyes open and I can always see daylight between the stock and the barrel. Unless you meant the stock slaps the barrel under recoil; that I can't speak to.

I know about cheek weld too. I just mean that placing my cheek on the stock seems to also torque the entire setup and open my groups. However, if I hover my head slightly above the stock, it seems my groups tighten up. Also, wouldn't my AO scope = zero paralax or darn close to it?
 
Ditch the stock and have (or do it yourself, not that hard) the action bedded into a Boyd's laminate stock, they're around $100 and it's money well spent. There's just too many variables with that crappy stock you have to fight to get the gun shooting consistantly.
 
Gunslinger said:
Ditch the stock and have (or do it yourself, not that hard) the action bedded into a Boyd's laminate stock, they're around $100 and it's money well spent. There's just too many variables with that crappy stock you have to fight to get the gun shooting consistantly.
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I know, I've got one in the mail. Boyds' Prairie hunter in Pepper. I just couldn't swing these tactical type stocks. Too much money.
 
greg11 said:
I ws out shooting my Stevens 200 .223 today. It is 100% stock at this point.

Just a quick question, has anyone else noticed that this gun is a completely different animal when you support the gun directly underneath the action screws? The stock is so flimsy that it truly seems when I place any pressure on the front of the stock, groups open up wildly. I also find that the less I touch the stock wih my cheek, the better my shots are. I attribute this to the weight of my cheek on the stock shifting the action around in the stock. Anyone else noticed this?
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I have shot some superb groups with the factory stock. It is a bit flimsy but does work. I have even shot great groups with a bipod.

You just have to learn how to set it up.

When you say free floating, can you squeeze the barrel to hit the forend with med pressure? If yes, it is not free floated enough.

I like to see at least a 1/8" all around the barrel. 3/16 to 1/4" between the bottom of the barrel and the tip of the stock. Yes, it is a big honking gap BUT that removes the stock hitting the barrel.

At which point, the stocks work just fine. Bedding the action is critical too.

Pressure on ANY stock can and will affect how it shoots. Consistency is paramount to putting them all in the same hole. Just look at the great lengths SR BR shooters go in setting up their rifles THEN try very very hard not to upset that during shooting.

If you want to drive them all into the same hole, alot of stuff matters.

I am sure you will enjoy that Boyds stock but poor form on the bench will still screw up your groups.

Jerry
 
Long time no post here, hopefully this build will start to build some speed soon.
Got the barrels swapped today (big thanks to yodave for helping me out with that)

Im hopping the stock comes in anytime now, i was billed for it about 3 weeks ago so hopefully its in this week.
getting excited now its looking more and more promising as the days go by.

I cant wait to get this rig out.
gotta finnish the stock once it gets here though, hopefully its here before my holidays are up so i can get a head start on it.
Pictures to come

Thanks

Dave
 
AKD said:
First off the kid is setting up to build a nice rifle. If you guys all wana sleep with the Stevens giver. If you sit here and say a stock stevens action is better than a custom bat ect... All your doing is flooding the net with garbage.






lol something tells me he knows you did not shoot that group.
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gee thats wierd because team savage has been winning almost everything using stock rifles and kicking the snot out of full custom rigs. yeah you're right those savage/stevens rifles suck.
 
fatboyz said:
I've been waiting 6 months and 5 days for my McMillan stock!!
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I once waited 364 days from date of order for a stock to be shipped out. This was for a stock that was to take 8 weeks. :D

And when I say shipped out, well they did not ship it to me direct. It took about another 10 weeks or so before I saw it. :D

Not sure if I got the record on this one. :D
 
So here are a few pictures. I couldent believe it my mom called me lastnight and said there was a pickup at the post office for me and guess what ?

Barreled action
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The stock showed up, i was plesantly supprised
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Have a bit of work ahead of me now :)

Dave
 
I am inclined to believe that the mental aspect of truly top notch shooting is where most of the winning happens and the losing too. the skills are where the winners are seperated. anyone with sufficient cash can buy a _ _ _ _ that is capable of winning any match. but stick me behind it and I won't win. I don't practice enough I don't know how to read wind or diagnose targets. The winning targets at any match are rarely indictitive of the rifles full potential.
 
Hey Dave, that stock looks sick, you got two weeks to get it ready to put pressure on me lol, If you need help call me, I want to get you shooting as much as you want to get that gun shooting.
 
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