Stop the RCMP!

That's a 3-5 year wait if their trend holds, requiring an Access to Information request that is denied in every aspect. Great plan.

No 3-5 year wait on that answer. Actually took less than 2 hours and we have a quote of him stating that the 'Government sets the regulations'.
 
So I just spoke to the guy. He was pretty straightforward:

He admits that he made the comment, but says it was taken out of context. His words were essentially that the RCMP enforces the regulations as made by the Minister of Public Safety and he referred me to Blaney's office for any pending changes. He said that they deal with magazines in a regulatory and law enforcement capacity every day. He would not comment on whether the RCMP has any initiatives regarding changes to the regulations, but he reiterated that the government sets the regulations.

Straight from the proverbial horse's mouth. But that's far less exciting than Swiss Arms II.

FF

Nice work FF!
 
When the police tell you something is legal, then change their minds and attempt to prosecute you for doing what they told you was legal... that is the definition of entrapment. Just saying.

They are opening themselves up to a few lawsuits with this one. Keep your old copies of the bulletin as reference.

The RCMP don't care about lawsuits. They are not personally liable and have unlimited legal representation. Unless officers were somehow made personally responsible/liable they have nothing to lose. They fully know most Canadians can't afford a legal battle with them.
 
Is there any kind of official statement saying these are still ok since I had saved the link to my phone and always just referred to that. It would be great to have something in writing like the example that used to be on the website.
 
No 3-5 year wait on that answer. Actually took less than 2 hours and we have a quote of him stating that the 'Government sets the regulations'.

... and likely signs off on things like firearm reclassifications.

The claim that the RCMP unilaterally reclassified guns in a vacuum without the knowledge or approval of the Minister of Public Safety never passed the smell test for me.
 
The silent black helicopters are slowly circling your house right now. The RCMP will initiate another flood so they can go in and grab your guns. Better use commercial grade tinfoil for your hat. I heard Alcon is in league with the feds, reducing the aluminum content of regular foil to make it less effective.

FF

Hey ff, do you really think the rcmp flip-flopping on their interpretation of magazine capacity laws is far fetched? Of course you must be aware that they recently did something similar with antique firearms. But you probably know all about that, being so clever and having all that spare time on your hands. :)
 
I for one do not believe for a second the RCMP staffer was misunderstood. He was called out for speaking "out of school" and is purely on damage control.

Even if this was a false alarm, and I do not believe it was; this still shows the powers that be, that we are watching and will not hesitate to call them out and call attention to our issues.

The RCMP involved are not our enemies, but they are not our friends either. They have their own agendas that they want to push and this is irrespective of any position we may hold.

JR
 
They have told a friend of mine they need more firepower because everyone owns an sks. Now you can get pistol mags in an sks. Some really think gun owners are a threat and should not have any guns. Others shoot ipsc and idpa with us. Go figure
 
In the case of the antiques, the previous policy actually conflicted with the law as it was written. The RCMP is moving closer to literal regulation than before. Sucks for the nine people in the country with rechambered antiques, but thats the law as it stands. With any luck, those antiques are also prohibs and they just got 12(x) status.

As for clever, thank you. As for lots of free time, well, you've got me beat: you have 12x the post count I do. You average 2.59 posts/day. I average .67 posts/day.

Clever enough?

FF

Hey ff, do you really think the rcmp flip-flopping on their interpretation of magazine capacity laws is far fetched? Of course you must be aware that they recently did something similar with antique firearms. But you probably know all about that, being so clever and having all that spare time on your hands. :)
 
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So I just spoke to the guy. He was pretty straightforward:

The "Year of the Magazine" comment was taken out of context. He was talking about Bruce Jenner in Vanity Fair. What he said was the "magazine made his year." :)
 
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In the case of the antiques, the previous policy actually conflicted with the law as it was written. The RCMP is moving closer to literal regulation than before. Sucks for the nine people in the country with rechambered antiques, but thats the law as it stands. With any luck, those antiques are also prohibs and they just got 12(x) status.

As for clever, thank you. As for lots of free time, well, you've got me beat: you have 12x the post count I do. You average 2.59 posts/day. I average .67 posts/day.

Clever enough?

FF

LOL, maybe not entirely clever - how did you arrive at 9 people who owned "rechambered antiques"? I think you may have been underestimating just a bit. FYI, the rechambering was not the issue, it was the original chambering that the rcmp said disqualified antique status, even though they were giving out antique letters for theose firearms previously. Moving closer to the law or not, it's still a flip-flop and a major reinterpretation. It happened and it can happen again. There's enough grey area in C68 to make plenty room for reinterpretation.
 
So everyone should call off the hounds because some anonymous guy on CGN says he just called up Murray Smith and it was all a big misunderstanding? Lol, ok

That's supposed to be more credible than the idea that the cops would like to do away with LAR and Beowulf mags?
 
All these firearms laws and magazine limits, etc were created to prevent mass shootings. If the image of gun owners can be repositioned as a hobby and sport that's practiced safely and responsibly, the general public would be more receptive and less scared of guns. If more people can understand that shooting is more than just a bunch of crazy people shooting off guns, these laws would have a much harder time of getting passed. If our personal liberty of being able to enjoy a hobby and a sport in fear of misuse of the equipment involved, they might as well put limits on all sports equipment that have potential to inflict mortal injury. Criminals use guns, yes, but criminals don't follow the law. Criminals also use the Internet to communicate, shall we start censoring the Internet to get at those criminals? Sounds ridiculous! Gun laws should focus on dealing with criminals, not law abiding citizens. However due diligence is a must to prevent legal firearms from falling into wrong hands. I support safety training, storage requirements, licensing, but that's as far as it should go.
 
So everyone should call off the hounds because some anonymous guy on CGN says he just called up Murray Smith and it was all a big misunderstanding? Lol, ok

That's supposed to be more credible than the idea that the cops would like to do away with LAR and Beowulf mags?

Someone who freely calls 'officials' and can cite the exact number of gun owners screwed over by said 'official' is the last person we should listen to.
 
Honestly, a bad intentioned person can just unpin a 5/30 mag or even an 5/100 drum mag. RCMP... Stop being fools with stupid policies... mag policy would be a complete waste of time and money. Common sense pls...
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All these firearms laws and magazine limits, etc were created to prevent mass shootings.

Actually no these laws were constructed to further the civilian disarmament agenda.
We all know this without a doubt because those constructing and passing these laws plainly admitted it.
Here are a few quotes as examples.

1) "I came to Ottawa . . . with the firm belief that the only people in this country who should have guns are police officers and soldiers." --Liberal minister of justice, Allan Rock, 1994.

2) "C-68 has little to do with gun control or crime control, but it is the first step necessary to begin the social re-engineering of Canada." --Liberal senator Sharon Carstairs, 1996.

3) "Canada will be one of the first unarmed countries in the world." --Liberal foreign affairs minister Lloyd Axworthy, 1998.

4) "Disarming the Canadian public is part of the new humanitarian social agenda." -- Liberal foreign affairs minister Lloyd Axworthy at a gun control conference, Oslo, Norway, 1998

5)“This government does not believe that public safety is enhanced by carrying weapons. In fact, it has been a long-standing Canadian government practice to discourage the use of personal defense weapons.” - Former Liberal Minister of Justice Anne McLellan 1999

If it was not obvious before it should be now that mass shootings were only ever a convenient tragedy to the civilian disarmament agenda.
A storm of emotion used to cloud judgment of an intellectually and morally bankrupt desire to infringe upon the rights of and in general subjugate the population.
 
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