STOWAWAY Rifle from Dark Mountain Arms

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Ungrateful said:
This is probably a dumb question but will there be a left handed version? First time in my life I’ve ever asked that, I’m not left handed but doubt I could get used to the bolt handle being on the wrong side
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I bet it would take you less then a dozen rounds to figure it out...... :)
 
Ungrateful said:
This is probably a dumb question but will there be a left handed version? First time in my life I’ve ever asked that, I’m not left handed but doubt I could get used to the bolt handle being on the wrong side
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Highly unlikely IMO. Niche guns like this rarely get a LH version.

Keep in mind there's a pistol version. If you consider it from the perspective of it being a pistol with a stock then idea that you'd hold it in your dominant hand and use your off-hand to cycle and load makes more sense.
 
HeadDamage said:
Some air pistols work this way with the bolt being on the left side of a right handed gun. It works quite well once you get your head around it.
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I would be reaching over the scope with my right hand to get to the bolt. In the vz58 and m14 days I was running the charging handle with my left hand, reaching over the top or underneath after the new mag went in. Still do it in 10/22’s. Handle goes on the right side and you run it with your right hand if it’s bolt action or left hand if it’s semi auto. I had a friend at the range who was an old veteran and was just getting back into guns in his boomer years. Got himself a norinco m305 and he kept swiping his hand across the wrong side of the action after mag changes for what seemed like years. Muscle memory. The same reason I only own shotguns that have the safety and slide release in the same location as an 870 and don’t use safety’s on pistols because I’m used to glocks not having them
 
Ungrateful said:
I would be reaching over the scope with my right hand to get to the bolt. In the vz58 and m14 days I was running the charging handle with my left hand, reaching over the top or underneath after the new mag went in. Still do it in 10/22’s. Handle goes on the right side and you run it with your right hand if it’s bolt action or left hand if it’s semi auto. I had a friend at the range who was an old veteran and was just getting back into guns in his boomer years. Got himself a norinco m305 and he kept swiping his hand across the wrong side of the action after mag changes for what seemed like years. Muscle memory. The same reason I only own shotguns that have the safety and slide release in the same location as an 870 and don’t use safety’s on pistols because I’m used to glocks not having them
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Hold on. Are you right or left handed?

If you are right handed, then you don't have to reach over a scope? You use your support hand to run the bolt, not your trigger hand. There is no need to have a support hand way out front, because the gun is not 8lb with most of that weight in front of the grip.
 
Suther said:
Hold on. Are you right or left handed?

If you are right handed, then you don't have to reach over a scope? You use your support hand to run the bolt, not your trigger hand. There is no need to have a support hand way out front, because the gun is not 8lb with most of that weight in front of the grip.
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Right handed shooting only right handed rifles. I use the right hand (trigger hand) to run the bolt on a bolt action. On a semi auto like an Sks or whatever I use my left hand for mag changes and reach across to release the bolt instead of making it a 2 handed job. It’s what I’m used to because that’s how most of them are. That’s my point. The bolt handle on this bolt action rifle is on the wrong side for right handed people and everyone’s on here telling me I’m crazy lol. Like the guy who responded up above said, they’re all left handed. A right handed person shooting it would look like a left handed person shooting a right handed rifle.
 
Ungrateful said:
Right handed shooting only right handed rifles. I use the right hand (trigger hand) to run the bolt on a bolt action. On a semi auto like an Sks or whatever I use my left hand for mag changes and reach across to release the bolt instead of making it a 2 handed job. It’s what I’m used to because that’s how most of them are. That’s my point. The bolt handle on this bolt action rifle is on the wrong side for right handed people and everyone’s on here telling me I’m crazy lol. Like the guy who responded up above, they’re all left handed
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Yeah. Stop thinking of it as a bolt action rifle. Think of it as a handgun with a stock. Do you cycle your glock with your trigger hand? No. The trigger hand holds the gun, your other hand does everything else.


Most bolt action rifles are heavy, and front heavy at that. This more or less necessitates using the trigger hand to run the bolt, because you need the other hand way out front to hold the rifle up. That is not really a factor in a sub-3lb gun though.
 
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PinnedTo5ive said:
I know right? Been watching this thread closely.
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I've subscribed to the thread so every time someone posts to it I get a notification, and every time I keep hoping it's Marstar announcing they are available to order, haha. Soon enough they'll be up for sale......this reminds me I need to get off my butt and get some 5.7x28 loaded up so I have something to shoot when I finally get the gun.
 
Yeah, some of the factors that determine the preferred "handedness" of a rifle are based on practical considerations, mainly weight as stated above. But most of this is just force of habit. We want to hold the gun and cycle the bolt as we always have, even if there isn't really any logical reason for it. When you try something new and different, it takes some practice to learn to do it naturally, but this is usually pretty easily accomplished.

After a lifetime of shooting standard bolt action rifles and holding and cycling them as we are "supposed" to, I was worried when I first entered the Blaser system. The straight-pull action was different...the decocking safety was different...would I forget and mess up under pressure during a hunt? Nope. I quickly became comfortable with the system, and also find no disadvantage when I switch back to a more-standard rifle on occasion. Same thing with shooting an old Brno with the "backwards" safety...or switching from a pump shotgun to a semi-auto...or reeling a baitcast reel with your right hand but a spinning reel with the left, even though both are held in the same hand for the actual casting.

Getting comfortable and proficient with one system doesn't mean that you forget the older one, or that you can't learn the new.
 
jjohnwm said:
Yeah, some of the factors that determine the preferred "handedness" of a rifle are based on practical considerations, mainly weight as stated above. But most of this is just force of habit. We want to hold the gun and cycle the bolt as we always have, even if there isn't really any logical reason for it. When you try something new and different, it takes some practice to learn to do it naturally, but this is usually pretty easily accomplished.

After a lifetime of shooting standard bolt action rifles and holding and cycling them as we are "supposed" to, I was worried when I first entered the Blaser system. The straight-pull action was different...the decocking safety was different...would I forget and mess up under pressure during a hunt? Nope. I quickly became comfortable with the system, and also find no disadvantage when I switch back to a more-standard rifle on occasion. Same thing with shooting an old Brno with the "backwards" safety...or switching from a pump shotgun to a semi-auto...or reeling a baitcast reel with your right hand but a spinning reel with the left, even though both are held in the same hand for the actual casting.

Getting comfortable and proficient with one system doesn't mean that you forget the older one, or that you can't learn the new.
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It’s all a force of habit or muscle memory for me. It’s like I said above about the guy at my range who had c1 experience and couldn’t get used to the charging handle on an m305 being on the right hand side. Also why I don’t own shotguns that don’t have the same layout as a Remington. Just sticking with what im used to.

The thing about treating it like a single shot Glock, yeah. Except it isn’t. It’s a bolt action rifle
 
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