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thats true but if the shroud is CONSIDERED PART of the reciever its automatically considered a converted auto
ill pm ya with some details
He has a point. It's worth it to check, because if you send it to them and they decide the shroud is an integral part of the reciever, you aren't getting it back.
I don't really see how they can say the barrel jacket is a part of the reciever as it's a detatchable part, but if they do say it's a part of the reciever then they can keep it, I will make another one.
I'm in the gun making mode now, there is no stopping me.
well it can be gotten back but its NOT easy. as now it would be a prohibited weapon thats NOT registered and NOT grandfathered
DIFAT would be VERY interested on how it came to be......
the rcmp would NOT charge you as your trying to comply
it would have to be transfered to a bussiness thats allowed to have them and thats ONLY if the RCMP allowed it thay can say no and you lose your gun
spencer thats the easy part makeing a new shrourd
see what the rcmp weapons techs say if its removeable you may be allright but stranger things have and do happen with the rcmp! they will work with you but its not allways easy and often makes ZERO sense
DIFAT would be VERY interested on how it came to be......
the rcmp would NOT charge you as your trying to comply
it would have to be transfered to a bussiness thats allowed to have them and thats ONLY if the RCMP allowed it thay can say no and you lose your gun
spencer thats the easy part makeing a new shrourd
see what the rcmp weapons techs say if its removeable you may be allright but stranger things have and do happen with the rcmp! they will work with you but its not allways easy and often makes ZERO sense
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Drilling the rear filler for the mag catch.
I tack welded the rear filler in place using a narrow mag to set the spacing distance. I used a narrow one rather than an average one as I like tight filling mags, nothing annoys me more that having a wobbly mag. I will have to fit the mags to the gun, but that's the way it should be done. I think
I think I'm on the home straight now and I'm starting to relax.
I tack welded the rear filler in place using a narrow mag to set the spacing distance. I used a narrow one rather than an average one as I like tight filling mags, nothing annoys me more that having a wobbly mag. I will have to fit the mags to the gun, but that's the way it should be done. I think
I think I'm on the home straight now and I'm starting to relax.
The barrel is obviously removable - therefore the shroud is NOT part of the receiver, unlike the PPsH series...I don't really see how they can say the barrel jacket is a part of the reciever as it's a detatchable part, but if they do say it's a part of the reciever then they can keep it, I will make another one.
I'm in the gun making mode now, there is no stopping me.
Nice work - nothing like a 10 pound 9mm, eh!
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The barrel is obviously removable - therefore the shroud is NOT part of the receiver, unlike the PPsH series...
Nice work - nothing like a 10 pound 9mm, eh!
I don't see how any sane person could say the barrel jacket is part of the reciever, but there again I would say the same about sten magwells
On the subject of barrel jackets I think I will extend one and turn an 18 1/2 " barrel to make an unrestricted version. I could just leave the barrel sticking out from the end of a standard barrel jacket 3 1/2 " but it might look a bit dorkish.
It feels heavier than 10 pounds.
Two days ago I would have said that the gun would be finished by now, but I ran into a problem. I got it almost all together, but after playing with it for a while ( the gun) I found that the inner tube had moved forward as the weld had broken, I never thought this would happen. I then drilled and plug welded but the same thing happened again ! I have now pinned it with four pins, this is probably ( I hope) over the top but I don't want to have to sort this out again.
The welds polish out easily enough so it will look ok.
The welds polish out easily enough so it will look ok.
Todays work..
Making the side plates.
All the components in the right place and the plates set for permanent fixing.
All together
I now have to tweak the sear as it is not always catching the bolt, get the barrel latch installed, and drill and tap the reciever to fix the sight in position.
Making the side plates.
All the components in the right place and the plates set for permanent fixing.
All together
I now have to tweak the sear as it is not always catching the bolt, get the barrel latch installed, and drill and tap the reciever to fix the sight in position.
The sear and trigger mechanism needed considerable tweaking, like six hours worth, barrel latch took 30 mins. The stock needs minor inletting as the side plates are a little thicker than the originals, about 30 minutes work.
I feel a test fire coming on
After that it's the serial number and made in Saskatchewan Canada to be done,then the finish.
I feel a test fire coming on
After that it's the serial number and made in Saskatchewan Canada to be done,then the finish.
I have an FRT number for the suomi now, the only problem is that has not been activated. I am told that the "FRT people" will not activate it until they have inspected the gun, which is fair enough I suppose.
I have been told that I can not send it in until it is registered, but I can not register it without an FRT number. To get around this problem I was told to register it as a MkII sten, it would then be registered albeit as the wrong thing, but that apparently did not matter as it could be changed to the correct description later. So I go online to register it as a MKII sten and get to the bottom of the form only to find out that it states this warning.........
.."It is an offence under section 106 of the Firearms Act to knowingly make a false or misleading statement, either orally or in writing, or to knowingly fail to disclose relevant information, for the purpose of obtaining a registration certificate."
I clicked on cancel instead of submit. I then emailed the CFC and asked for their advise on how to proceed without putting my signature to the declaration. I got a reply saying that I had done the right thing and that...
my case will be "presented to CFR Legal Counsel and The Registrar of Firearms for direction and resolution........
....." until further notice, please be advised that you have attempted to register this piece but are unable to do so as hereby notified by the CFR; you can use this email as reference should someone question you re the existence or your possession of the firearm until such time as the CFR can give you direction on how to complete the registration process (legally).
I wonder how long this will take.
I have been told that I can not send it in until it is registered, but I can not register it without an FRT number. To get around this problem I was told to register it as a MkII sten, it would then be registered albeit as the wrong thing, but that apparently did not matter as it could be changed to the correct description later. So I go online to register it as a MKII sten and get to the bottom of the form only to find out that it states this warning.........
.."It is an offence under section 106 of the Firearms Act to knowingly make a false or misleading statement, either orally or in writing, or to knowingly fail to disclose relevant information, for the purpose of obtaining a registration certificate."
I clicked on cancel instead of submit. I then emailed the CFC and asked for their advise on how to proceed without putting my signature to the declaration. I got a reply saying that I had done the right thing and that...
my case will be "presented to CFR Legal Counsel and The Registrar of Firearms for direction and resolution........
....." until further notice, please be advised that you have attempted to register this piece but are unable to do so as hereby notified by the CFR; you can use this email as reference should someone question you re the existence or your possession of the firearm until such time as the CFR can give you direction on how to complete the registration process (legally).
I wonder how long this will take.
All was well when cycling the action by hand, but when it came to using live rounds it was a different matter altogether. I found that on the return stroke the arm on the back of the sear wich is supposed to engage the trigger hook in the semi auto position did not engage and snagged the bolt almost every time. No matter how long I looked at the thing I could not see what was causing this, and for a while I thought that I had come to the end of the road. I asked advice from someone with far more experience than I, and he suggested that if the cause can not be found then I should just fix the problem, and install a blocking bar in the FCG to stop this happening. This is what I did and it is now working perfectly Tomorrow I will get it sighted in. After this I will tidy up then give it it's finish.
No doubt about where this one is made.
Tomorrow I will get it sighted in. After this I will tidy up then give it it's finish.No doubt about where this one is made.
Gave it a quick test this morning, and everyting went nice and smooth. I had expected to have to adjust the windage but luckily I got it was spot on without having to make any adjustments. I know it's not a target rifle but it's nice to see what it will do. This is my first group at 15 yards.
The wind kept blowing the target down, but managed this at 75 yards.
Shooting this is totally different from any automatic that I have ever fired. First thing that I noticed is that it does not feel like shooting an automatic, the bolt cycles so fast and smooth that it is unnoticeable. Felt recoil is totally non existent and there is no muzzle rise whatsoever. I put this down to the massive compensator and the weight. I would immagine that it would be extreemly stable and controlable in fully automatic mode. The trigger is smooth and crisp, and the sights are wonderfull. It really is a luxury smg
The wind kept blowing the target down, but managed this at 75 yards.
Shooting this is totally different from any automatic that I have ever fired. First thing that I noticed is that it does not feel like shooting an automatic, the bolt cycles so fast and smooth that it is unnoticeable. Felt recoil is totally non existent and there is no muzzle rise whatsoever. I put this down to the massive compensator and the weight. I would immagine that it would be extreemly stable and controlable in fully automatic mode. The trigger is smooth and crisp, and the sights are wonderfull. It really is a luxury smg
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