support for eddie Maurice's self defense case Please read...

Paul_T said:
I see zip in the news other than your link above. I guess it hit the end of it's news cycle due to nothing for the MSM to grab hold of and shake around..... no race card, no death.

edit - my local online news (via a CP feed) said 50 supporters
https://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/223038/Farm-shooter-in-jury-s-hands
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It's not going to get national attention like the Stanley trial did for the reasons that you've mentioned. It's going to be up to us to get the word out. Email the news and YouTube links out to as many fellow gun/property/home owners as you can and tell them to keep forwarding it. This is not just Eddie's fight but we're all in this together.

If Eddie Maurice goes down in this fight, we all lose. If Eddie wins, it will set a precedent and it will send a message to the criminals, including those degenerate criminals in Ottawa...
 
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Autolite said:
including those degenerate criminals in Ottawa...
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The Somalian street gangs?

Seriously, you sound like a raving lunatic. You don’t like Trudeau - got it. You don’t like Liberals - got it. Doesn’t make the PM, nor 68.1% of Canadians who didn’t vote Conservative, criminals. Spouting off like you are hurts the pro-gun cause more than anything else and gives the anti’s all the ammunition they need to further their cause. Stick to supporting things like this on merit vice emotion and we win; get emotional, angry, and crazed and even if it is a win in court, it’ll still be a loss publicly.

Before you fire off a tirade against me:
- I believe in the right to defend oneself, family, and other citizens by all means proportional to threat.
- I don’t agree with some of the PM & Ruling Party’s decisions, however I don’t believe them to be the devil and “all bad”. I don’t believe the Conservatives to be our “saviours” and all good. I do believe they are all politicians and thus, self serving.
- I absolutely do believe in Democracy, even when I possess the minority view. Better than any alternative.
 
TT1900 said:
Before you fire off a tirade against me:
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No tirade. Some of us are supportive of our criminals in the federal government and some of us aren't. I won't apologize for making my sentiments known...
 
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TT1900 said:
Doesn’t make the PM, nor 68.1% of Canadians who didn’t vote Conservative, criminals.
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Perhaps it's a good thing then that I've been holding back and keeping my comments in check. I'm guessing that you might not appreciate me telling you what I really think...
 
mbucky32 said:
So back on topic, despite having made a donation, it hasn't been accepted as an e-transfer to the email listed by IRunguns. Anyone??
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I can't comment on what happened to your EMT, but the EMT I sent on March 13th was accepted on March 14th.
 
Autolite said:
People need to get it through their heads and understand that helping and supporting each other is now our last and only option...
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agreed........but the simple fact is...the government is not on our side..the law is not on our side...

so we MUST support each other in the courts..and crowd fund each and every single action in the courts....because the victim of crime has to pay HUGE money to get a fair say in trial...while the criminal gets FREE top notch lawyers...paid for by our taxes....sigh...what a mess

I am glad that eddie will get a trial by jury...this is his best hope..

And when I say OUR side...I mean law abiding, god loving , tax paying, productive citizens...that do our best to take care of our families...and patriotically support our great nation.....it seems that in todays progressive liberal world, the criminal gets more rights than the law abiding citizen...if we all stand together, we can make things right

And don't forget...plz all send a letter or email to your local politician over bill c-71.....remember...this is akin to death by a thousand pinpricks...we need to make our voices heard..

Yeah,yeah..lol...I know its late...another bout of insomnia :(

cheers all :)
 
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slim123 said:
agreed........but the simple fact is...the government is not on our side..the law is not on our side...
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Yes, exactly. The laws are not ever going to change to effectively deter the criminal. Most certainly not under any Liberal government anyway. Looking after each other is now our last and only option.

slim123 said:
so we MUST support each other in the courts..and crowd fund each and every single action in the courts....because the victim of crime has to pay HUGE money to get a fair say in trial...
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Like the old saying goes, "you only get as much justice as you can afford to pay for". I saw a documentary where there was a judge who actually said that. There's a reason that that saying has been around for a while.

slim123 said:
And don't forget...plz all send a letter or email to your local politician over bill c-71.....remember...this is akin to death by a thousand pinpricks...we need to make our voices heard..
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Yes, I do that too. Mostly though I think that it's just a 'feel good exercise in futility'. The Turdeau government is actually trying to eradicate the influence that firearm owners might have on politicians. Eliminating the 'people's voice' from politics I guess is the Liberals' definition of 'democracy'...
 
Autolite said:
Perhaps it's a good thing then that I've been holding back and keeping my comments in check. I'm guessing that you might not appreciate me telling you what I really think...
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Hang in there Autolite. Your efforts in keeping this thread focused are appreciated and effective. Dude has a lot to learn about his government.
 
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Criminal Crime Spree

http://www.canadapolicereport.ca/20...idents-innocent-motorists-condition-improves/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-crime-spree-kidnapping-shooting-1.4607123

Here we have a case of multiple car theft, a home invasion, kidnapping, firearms offenses and an innocent guy in the hospital with "life threatening injuries" and I'm guessing that few of you are even aware of it. But a homeowner protecting his property shoots a burglar in the arm and some people get all upset and vilify the homeowner.

What's wrong with this picture???
 
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The probability of Eddie Maurice being convicted is low, like many of the other cases here in Canada where someone's used a firearm to protect themselves or their property. All he has to show is he feared for his life and used reasonable force in the circumstances to protect his own life and that of his young family. The conviction rate is so low that it makes you wonder why the Crown attorneys even bother charging people and forcing them to go through the heartache, expense and aggravation of a criminal trial. I hope Eddie Maurice gets all the charges dropped and the judge awards him a large lump sum of court costs. That would send a message to the RCMP that they ought not to double-victimize the victims of crime but rather focus on criminals who initiated the crime.
 
exv152 said:
it makes you wonder why the Crown attorneys even bother charging people and forcing them to go through the heartache, expense and aggravation of a criminal trial.
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Depending on the jurisdiction it is the RCMP/Police laying the charges rather than a Crown Prosecutor. In AB most charges are laid by the RCMP. The Crown then decides if there is any chance of conviction.
 
exv152 said:
The probability of Eddie Maurice being convicted is low, like many of the other cases here in Canada where someone's used a firearm to protect themselves or their property.
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I'm seeing things from both sides here. We've been the victim of two home invasions, the last one I was home, my wife woke me up, and I hit the guy with a baseball bat and sent him running for his life. Afterwards many people told me *I* was lucky to not be the one charged for assaulting *him*... and I was like WTF? I was defending my home, wife, and kids. I was so,so pissed. The kid was lucky he lept over our railing and escaped before I really laid into him. (he was captured not long after and charged)

On the other hand, I was almost shot visiting a now ex-friend on his rural property. He invited us to come visit anytime, and if he wasn't in the house, to come around back to his workshop. We took him up on his offer (middle of the day, not at night, lol), he didn't answer his door, went around back. Minutes later a gun pops out of the back window and his wife starts screaming threatening to shoot us. I later learned they'd been taking shots at people from the house, afraid of theft. I yelled and ID'd myself, but still, she went off her rocker, saying how she almost shot me. We're not friends anymore. I don't stay friends with people who threaten to shoot me (or my wife n kids).

- I strongly believe anyone should be able to reasonably defend themselves against home invasions and against threat to their life. If someone comes on my property with a gun and threatens me or my family, I would like to legally defend myself with a gun.
- I strongly disagree with anyone being able to take shots at people, possibly killing them, for being on their property. The kid who invaded my house was a wayward teenager, who just needed a beating to set him straight (He's now working, married, with kids I recently learned). As pissed as I was, it would have been flat out WRONG for me to shoot him and kill him. It's been a long time since attempted theft = a death sentence!! As a side note, this winter I had another teenager try and B&E, he ran off but I tracked him down.. and lets just say he hasn't been around since - lesson learned!
 
exv152 said:
it makes you wonder why the Crown attorneys even bother charging people and forcing them to go through the heartache, expense and aggravation of a criminal trial. I hope Eddie Maurice gets all the charges dropped and the judge awards him a large lump sum of court costs. That would send a message to the RCMP that they ought not to double-victimize the victims of crime but rather focus on criminals who initiated the crime.
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"Wonder" indeed. With the rampant crime in Western Canada you would think that the police and the Crown would have more than enough to do just focusing their resources and attention on actual crime and real criminals! The fact that Maurice was even charged is itself an 'injustice'. Perhaps if the government and the police were only just a little more diligent reference catching actual criminals and keeping them locked up, the Maurice incident might not have even ever happened...
 
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@northerndad

The issue isn't to allow anyone to legally shoot anybody coming onto their property. The issue is that once it is clear and evident when an intruder is on your property, uninvited and exhibiting malicious or criminal intent, that there be the option available to the homeowner to legally employ force or the threat of force as a deterrent.

Consider that when Justin Turdeau's private residence was broken into several years ago by a stoned/drunk/disoriented teenager, he demanded that he be afforded a dedicated armed RCMP security detail as protection for his home and family. Turdeau himself has no issue with the application of force or the the threat of force for his own home security. He just has a problem with anyone else who isn't him doing the same...

(Remember too that Turdeau's break-in was completely random {the intruder didn't even know where he was} whereas myself and others here have been specifically targeted by armed and determined criminals. Who should be more justified reference the application of force as a deterrent?)
 
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exv152 said:
I hope Eddie Maurice gets all the charges dropped and the judge awards him a large lump sum of court costs. That would send a message to the RCMP that they ought not to double-victimize the victims of crime but rather focus on criminals who initiated the crime.
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I of course hope that Maurice beats the charges as well. I am also hoping that this FundRazr campaign grows big enough to get media attention. Sending a message to the criminals, and to Ottawa, that home owners are going to start looking after one another I feel is just as important...
 
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