Swiss Arms CQB
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robstar said:
The SG 552, 551 and 550 are prohibited, the Classic Green/CQB is a completely different firearm in many aspects (including the lower receiver, which is based on the SG 540) and are classified as non-restricted/restricted (based on barrel length). The CQB is available and I think TSE still has a few. If you're local to the GTA give Target Sports a call, they had a couple remaining last time I checked. Price is 3k plus any applicable taxes.
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damn you for posting this thread!! Is it possible to get it in black ? seems like everyone in Canada has pics of the green one (which is also awesome)..
how about the rail system for optics like on the 552?
what makes the 55x series prohibited and the CQB not? They look exactly the same...
Thanks for the info.
rob
how about the rail system for optics like on the 552?
what makes the 55x series prohibited and the CQB not? They look exactly the same...
Thanks for the info.
rob
robstar said:
Rob, pay attention!
The 55x's were prohibited by name, most likely due to the fact that they look scary and "military". The fewer questions you ask, the more sanity you will retain.
You can get black furniture from TSE, or direct from Switzerland. It'll cost ya, the stock alone is around $300. Besides, the Swiss Army uses OD furniture, that itself makes it cool.
As for the rail, you got two options: get a CQB with integral rail and flip-up sights or the version with fixed diopter sight (and H3 inserts) and attach an aftermarket rail (like the one pictured in my first photo).
Now, go get yourself in debt!
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The Sig552's we have are in the process of being upgraded to the polymer recoil guide.
The metal guide is a POS press fit disaster.
We have 220 Sig 552's -- over which currently 65 are serviceable -- most members have gone to M4's, FAL's, G3's and even Ak's
When the polymer guide rod comes in and the guns work -- then I might consider carrying one -- but until then - I give the system a huge thumbs down.
One side of our company removed the Sig552 from service and replaced them with AK's due to issues in a recent firefight (on top of the already problematic issues)
I have 3 recoil guides and springs in my bag to take back to my team to replace 3 that went down in the last two weeks.
The metal guide is a POS press fit disaster.
We have 220 Sig 552's -- over which currently 65 are serviceable -- most members have gone to M4's, FAL's, G3's and even Ak's
When the polymer guide rod comes in and the guns work -- then I might consider carrying one -- but until then - I give the system a huge thumbs down.
One side of our company removed the Sig552 from service and replaced them with AK's due to issues in a recent firefight (on top of the already problematic issues)
I have 3 recoil guides and springs in my bag to take back to my team to replace 3 that went down in the last two weeks.
robstar said:
All new guns incorporate the polymer guide and specialized gas valve.
As well, we have finally received the parts for Bigred and KevinB, so if nothing else thay may be able to let us know if the upgrades work for them.
Thanks for the update Kevin.
Do you know if you have the proper 552 gas valve in your guns? It's a different color and has different dimensions than the ones in the 550's and 551's. I have been told that there are actually 3 different gas valves for the weapons. When talking to some ex Swiss Military guys they stated that they have never seen broken bolt carriers in 552's. All they complained about is breaking off the cocking handles when firing close to car doors and barricades as well as the recoil spring guide rods when they were metal.
Stay safe,
Rich
Do you know if you have the proper 552 gas valve in your guns? It's a different color and has different dimensions than the ones in the 550's and 551's. I have been told that there are actually 3 different gas valves for the weapons. When talking to some ex Swiss Military guys they stated that they have never seen broken bolt carriers in 552's. All they complained about is breaking off the cocking handles when firing close to car doors and barricades as well as the recoil spring guide rods when they were metal.
Stay safe,
Rich
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Personally my choice would be for the carbine rather than the CQB. I stood in TSE handling one, lovely gun but I just can't figure out what I would use it for.
It's restricted, so range use only, five round mags (but so is most of the competition), and the barrel length means it won't make PF for IPSC rifle (not that there are many IPSC rifle comps in Canada anyway).
I just can't think of anything I could do with a CQB that couldn't be done better with the Carbine. Less muzzle blast, more MV, etc. And the Carbine isn't a particularly long gun.
And whether or not the parts breakages are still a problem or not, the Carbine uses the same recoil system as the rifle, and that is well proven.
One comment on Rich's comments - I personally prefer the mag setup on these guns, I think it's an advantage over an AR-15. My trigger finger is long enough that I can push the lever to release the mag release, so there's no real difference compared to an AR-15 (at least for me). Plus they lock into the gun far more solidly than AR-15 mags do.
I have NEVER had a malfunction with the Swiss Arms rifles that was a gun problem. Lost count of the number with AR-15s.
It's restricted, so range use only, five round mags (but so is most of the competition), and the barrel length means it won't make PF for IPSC rifle (not that there are many IPSC rifle comps in Canada anyway).
I just can't think of anything I could do with a CQB that couldn't be done better with the Carbine. Less muzzle blast, more MV, etc. And the Carbine isn't a particularly long gun.
And whether or not the parts breakages are still a problem or not, the Carbine uses the same recoil system as the rifle, and that is well proven.
One comment on Rich's comments - I personally prefer the mag setup on these guns, I think it's an advantage over an AR-15. My trigger finger is long enough that I can push the lever to release the mag release, so there's no real difference compared to an AR-15 (at least for me). Plus they lock into the gun far more solidly than AR-15 mags do.
I have NEVER had a malfunction with the Swiss Arms rifles that was a gun problem. Lost count of the number with AR-15s.
Jack Brock
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Cyber isn't the carbine restricted as well as the CQB? I am trying to get a hold of TSE right now so I can pay for it but no one is picking up.
Jak
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