TACCOM24 Sterling arms R18 mk3 .223

There is nothing whatsoever "junk"-like about the Turkish manufacture of firearms components. The SAI R18 Mk3 parts manufactured in Turkey are fabricated from T7075 aluminum alloy on Robotic CNC machinery to world-class ISO standards, then Type 5 Hardcoat Anodized. Those Turkish components are far superior in terms of fit and finish to the parts manufactured in Canada for the SAI R18 Mk2. The Turks may admittedly not make low-cost firearms to last for the Canadian market, but don't under-estimate their capacity for machining and fabrication excellence despite their (cost-saving) low wages. Compare a Mk3 Receiver set to a Mk2 set and you will see what I mean....
I gotta agree with Bartok. I own three Turkish made firearms and all of which are high quality items. Hell, my Canik TP9SF is built better than my M&P 9. I also have a Turkish 1911 that is awesome, so not all Turkish guns are crap. But I'm sure there are some that are not great, same as some other countries (Brazil has Taurus, Springfield Prodigy, Kodiak. See what I'm getting at?)

I'm excited for this rifle to replace my WK180c, and so I don't have to deal with Lockhart Tactical and the Raven platform
 
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Latest video for those obsessing over this like I am.

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Glad i'm not the only one. I'm like an addict, refreshing youtube, this forum and reddit for more info about the SAI R18 Mk3.

Been looking to support a canadian manufacturer since getting my license 1.5 years ago, but current offerings were either concerning or out of my price range.

I almost went and bought an RDB instead. But decided to wait due to TACCOM 2024. Glad i did.

Would've been perfect if there was an equally good canadian bullpup, but you can't have everything.
 
Glad i'm not the only one. I'm like an addict, refreshing youtube, this forum and reddit for more info about the SAI R18 Mk3.

Been looking to support a canadian manufacturer since getting my license 1.5 years ago, but current offerings were either concerning or out of my price range.

I almost went and bought an RDB instead. But decided to wait due to TACCOM 2024. Glad i did.

Would've been perfect if there was an equally good canadian bullpup, but you can't have everything.
Gonna go ahead and recommend you get the RDB and see how this shakes out before throwing money at it.
 
RDB is reliable, accurate with heavy projectiles, easy to clean and maintain, well balanced. It's just not very well suited for competition (though I saw one person competed with it) - think how you would be demonstrating empty chamber to safety person and how you would be dealing with jams, should they occur. It's a perfect budget 223/556 rifle for plinking. I would not have bothered with anything else if I had a need just for plinking rifle.
 
Bullpups feel like sh*t with a scope on them though. Threw a lightweight 1-6 on X95 and hated the forward weight feels way better with similarly weighted prism + offset RDS sitting more rearward. 10lb rig but feels much lighter.
 
Factory production of new R18 Mk2's ceased approximately 6 months ago. Any Mk2's remaining on dealer shelves are therefore New, Old Stock. .....

Just saw this thread and thought I'd pop in for a few clarifications: Firstly, we started working with overseas partners for this rifle over a year ago and had initial prototypes of the R18MK3 available for the RCMP last JUNE. The company in Turkey that we have partnered with was, before us, made primarily grenade launchers and now, through a collaboration, makes rifles for both us and them. There have been and still are a lot of trips to Turkey planned! These guys are awesome!

In anticipation of this project, we stopped producing and selling the MK2's a loooong time ago so that no dealer would have them and no consumer would buy a MK2 and then see the MK3 show up at a reduced price... with more features. Plus we wanted to make sure we stopped while we still had a bunch of the unique parts for long term warranty / support.

We also a do a lot more than just test fire the rifle in Canada. To have any Canadian lineage, we need to make some parts here and also do a lot of the assembly. But we do believe in "truth in advertising", so we changed the markings to reflect "assembly" verses "made in" Canada. They may be some of the same parts used overseas, but we just have them made here with our joint IP.

We are very proud of the final product and think it will hit a home run with the Canadian (and international) market. We have never hidden the fact that the bulk of this firearm is made in overseas plants. Ford makes cars, but they actually make ZERO parts themselves. Beretta themselves have been sourcing a ton of parts from Turkey for a few years now. Your beloved Apple IPhone is Chinese. I personally would like to think that it is because of our international business activities, that we have been able to made such great contacts that these projects are possible. Believe me... there have been some teething issues. But unlike a number of our past Canadian suppliers, the Turks have been extremely responsive to all of our suggestions and directives in the design and manufacturing process. As have been our partners in the UK, Slovenia and Taiwan.

For those asking: The MK2 and the MK3 are not really cross compatible.

To keep things in perspective; our goal was always to get the R18MK3 to a price point that was below $2000 CDN. To drop $800 off of the retail, we had to find about $450 in manufacturing efficiencies. This was ONLY possible by taking a big chunk of this overseas.

We are dropping a pre-production rifle off for Bartok5 to play with this weekend. Good, bad, ugly... we want the feedback.

I'll try to get back here and respond to questions; but to be frank; I'm not on CGN much anymore.

JR
 
Just saw this thread and thought I'd pop in for a few clarifications: Firstly, we started working with overseas partners for this rifle over a year ago and had initial prototypes of the R18MK3 available for the RCMP last JUNE. The company in Turkey that we have partnered with was, before us, made primarily grenade launchers and now, through a collaboration, makes rifles for both us and them. There have been and still are a lot of trips to Turkey planned! These guys are awesome!

In anticipation of this project, we stopped producing and selling the MK2's a loooong time ago so that no dealer would have them and no consumer would buy a MK2 and then see the MK3 show up at a reduced price... with more features. Plus we wanted to make sure we stopped while we still had a bunch of the unique parts for long term warranty / support.

We also a do a lot more than just test fire the rifle in Canada. To have any Canadian lineage, we need to make some parts here and also do a lot of the assembly. But we do believe in "truth in advertising", so we changed the markings to reflect "assembly" verses "made in" Canada. They may be some of the same parts used overseas, but we just have them made here with our joint IP.

We are very proud of the final product and think it will hit a home run with the Canadian (and international) market. We have never hidden the fact that the bulk of this firearm is made in overseas plants. Ford makes cars, but they actually make ZERO parts themselves. Beretta themselves have been sourcing a ton of parts from Turkey for a few years now. Your beloved Apple IPhone is Chinese. I personally would like to think that it is because of our international business activities, that we have been able to made such great contacts that these projects are possible. Believe me... there have been some teething issues. But unlike a number of our past Canadian suppliers, the Turks have been extremely responsive to all of our suggestions and directives in the design and manufacturing process. As have been our partners in the UK, Slovenia and Taiwan.

For those asking: The MK2 and the MK3 are not really cross compatible.

To keep things in perspective; our goal was always to get the R18MK3 to a price point that was below $2000 CDN. To drop $800 off of the retail, we had to find about $450 in manufacturing efficiencies. This was ONLY possible by taking a big chunk of this overseas.

We are dropping a pre-production rifle off for Bartok5 to play with this weekend. Good, bad, ugly... we want the feedback.

I'll try to get back here and respond to questions; but to be frank; I'm not on CGN much anymore.

JR
Thanks for this JR! Really excited for the R18 Mk3.

Your guys at TSE was instrumental in me getting my license. They were very supportive and friendly. From my range walk-in, to taking my classes there. Superb.

Just wanted to let you know the impact you guys have on individuals like myself. From an anti-gun stance to a new fellow gun enthusiast. Keep changing hearts one at a time.
 
I gotta agree with Bartok. I own three Turkish made firearms and all of which are high quality items. Hell, my Canik TP9SF is built better than my M&P 9. I also have a Turkish 1911 that is awesome, so not all Turkish guns are crap. But I'm sure there are some that are not great, same as some other countries (Brazil has Taurus, Springfield Prodigy, Kodiak. See what I'm getting at?)

I'm excited for this rifle to replace my WK180c, and so I don't have to deal with Lockhart Tactical and the Raven platform
Yup! My canik tp9sfx has been solid and I'm impressed by its quality for the price... And that trigger 👌🏻
 
It is gas pushed instead of piston pushed, but the CMMG Dissent compact action bolt carrier and return assembly also reminds me of the R18 MK3s BCG/recoil assembly. Which makes sense, since I'm pretty sure the Dissent action is also based on non-patented SIG ideas.
 
Remember… the original inventor of the piston AR was NOT H&K… It was an inventor in the UK: Bob from The Southern Gun Company. H&K directly “borrowed” his patent, but Bob was not in a position to fight it out in the courts… We have him to thank.

There is a litany of advances in the black gun world that we owe to a few super inquisitive people and “Fat Bob” from TSGC is one of them.
 
For those asking: The MK2 and the MK3 are not really cross compatible.
By "not really" are we to take that to mean that there is enough difference between the MK2 and MK3 lower receivers that that a MK3 upper will not fit on a MK2 lower? Or does it mean parts like bolts, barrels and such are not interchangeable between the MK2 and MK3?
 
By "not really" are we to take that to mean that there is enough difference between the MK2 and MK3 lower receivers that that a MK3 upper will not fit on a MK2 lower? Or does it mean parts like bolts, barrels and such are not interchangeable between the MK2 and MK3?
The Mk2 Lowers will not fit on a Mk3 Upper, and vice-versa. The Receivers are not compatible between the 2 versions of the R18.

By "Not Really" cross-compatible, JR meant that Barrels are not interchangable between Mk2 and Mk3 because of their different Gas Port positions. The Mk2 is Rifle length, whereas the Mk3 is Carbine length. Bolts are not interchangeable either. Really, no internals are cross-compatible other than the standard AR15 Extractor, Ejector and associated small springs and pins.

The Mk2 and Mk3 are fundamentally different rifles and efforts to mix and match will result in failure at best, and a potentially dangerous situation at worst. Best to regard and treat them as incompatible.
 
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