Non-phixion
CGN frequent flyer
Benelli, buy once, cry once. It will last a lifetime, remmingtons quality control is shabby, and the mossberg just isn't as nice as the benelli. Benelli has the slickest action out of any of them from my experience.
Tacitical Pump Action Shotgun: PIcking the Right Firearm
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Benelli, buy once, cry once. It will last a lifetime, remmingtons quality control is shabby, and the mossberg just isn't as nice as the benelli. Benelli has the slickest action out of any of them from my experience.
the_klenzer
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Vancouver, BC
I own a couple "tactical" shotguns. If I could do it all over, I would just have bought a SuperNova from square 1.
LOP = length of pull, the reach distance in inches between the rear edge of the stock and the trigger, on most shotguns this distance is 14 inches or a bit more, good for sport shooting but awkardly long for most people when it comes to tactical type shooting.
With the Hogue 12" LOP stock in question this distance is 12 inches, which is generally much better suited to tactical shooting though it may be a little too short for some folks, depending. A shorter stock has the bonus effects of reducing the reach to the forearm, which can really help with pump guns, and also in reducing the total length of the gun.
The shaping and texture on the Hogue is also a lot better than most factory stocks.
Well everyone's having a great old time spending your money on this one. My suggestion, buy an inexpensive shotgun and spend the rest on ammo. I picked up a Stevens savage 350 field security combo as my first pump. It's not the prettiest thing and the trigger is a bit heavy. It goes bang, chunk-chunk, bang every time. It was pissy about ultra crappy wal mart low brass rounds but other than that I've got hundreds of rounds through it. Next time I would go for something more mainstream in case I wanted to change the stock or something goofy.
Until you know if you'll be shooting every day for the rest of your life or try it out and lose interest don't blow all your cash.
Keep in mind that your first gun will seem like all you want, but it won't be. I thought that and I'm well well past my first. If you are a bit more frugal and buy a chev now you can have a whole fleet with the odd ferrari mixed in and the gas to put in them.
Until you know if you'll be shooting every day for the rest of your life or try it out and lose interest don't blow all your cash.
Keep in mind that your first gun will seem like all you want, but it won't be. I thought that and I'm well well past my first. If you are a bit more frugal and buy a chev now you can have a whole fleet with the odd ferrari mixed in and the gas to put in them.
sendmorebrains
Regular
Well perhaps BUT I am partial to the Ithaca M37 -
The older version have a slam fire option and because of that - it is probably the fastest pump I know of.
In fact it can be as fast as a semi auto if one practices alot. - Mind you, I cant hit anything past 2 meters.
Another Ithaca 37 fan here, in terms of the action, handling, ergos and weight its my favorite pump design.
However being such an old design they tend to need a bit more user knowlege and attention and also they tend to vary a lot in build quality.
However being such an old design they tend to need a bit more user knowlege and attention and also they tend to vary a lot in build quality.
After running a Benelli for over 3 years and finally trying an HP-9 I got to say it was like driving a Cadillac for 3 years then hopping into a rusty beat to hell old farm truck with flat tires. It had feeding and ejection issues right out of the box. The warranty center told me I had to pay for shipping and because I didnt buy it from their distributor I had to pay for the work too! F**K them. I fixed the issues myself and felt ripped off. The finish is actually better than an actual remington express though. The action is just as rough and crusty as a remington too. Ive seen so many similar issues with Remingtons, along with all their other models except the high end stuff. My list for pump shotguns goes Benelli Supernova, Mossberg 590/500/Maverick88, rock, stick. I love Mossbergs but the Benelli just spoils me too much to swap. As for the "ghost ring sights are useless comment", understand that is one persons opinion and opposite of mine. He more than likely spent more time with a bead sight and simply prefers it. There are those who prefer bead but alot of us prefer GRS too. With tritium GRS I dont need any light to line them up, I have just as clear of a sight picture in the dark as I do in daylight. I could see on a remington where aftermarket GRS sit so high you lose your cheekweld which scrambles your sight picture after each shot forcing you to spend time finding and lining them back up after recoil. Not my problem. Now I should add that my main requirement for all my guns is reliability. It trumps everything else in my books. If a cool looking gun is all you want then my entire post is useless to you. If you need a gun you can count on, not to let you down when you need it then go for the good stuff: get what works. Only reliable guns interest me so I dont buy remingtons.
Browning BPS? Product Improved Ithica M37? Nordic Extension.
Duel Action Bars
Tang Safety
Still bottom loading and eject.
Urbansherpa
Regular
- Location
- Hamilton, Ont
I own choice #1, the Benelli 14" collapsible. It is smooth, very loud and accurate with slugs out to 50 yards. Bought it for range-toy, 25 yard upland, and deer out to 50 yards. Lots of fun, well made. Get a lot of raised eyebrows at the range!
I also own a Browning BPS 26" hunter in wood, which is even smoother, and 'shucks' like it has ball-bearings! It's more lefty-friendly, too. I love them both!
My son bought himself (he's 15y) a Remington 887. He likes it but it isn't close to my Benelli or Browning in quality. He bought it with limited funds and it works for him. Hope his helps.
I also own a Browning BPS 26" hunter in wood, which is even smoother, and 'shucks' like it has ball-bearings! It's more lefty-friendly, too. I love them both!
My son bought himself (he's 15y) a Remington 887. He likes it but it isn't close to my Benelli or Browning in quality. He bought it with limited funds and it works for him. Hope his helps.
fat tony
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I also have a Winchester model 1200, and I am well pleased with it. It has had the Barrel cut down to 19", and a bead re-installed, and the barrel was crowned rather nicely.
The only modification I did on it was to replace the plastic trigger guard with an alloy one from Numrich. It is even hunting ready with the original wood plug, which can be taken out easily enough.
Theoretically, you can adapt it to take a heat shield and a bayonet lug, which I understand took M 1917 bayonets if I am not mistaken.
There may be repro heat shields that are designed to accept M1917 bayonets out there.
Too bad there was no top folding stock for these puppies (steel)
The only modification I did on it was to replace the plastic trigger guard with an alloy one from Numrich. It is even hunting ready with the original wood plug, which can be taken out easily enough.
Theoretically, you can adapt it to take a heat shield and a bayonet lug, which I understand took M 1917 bayonets if I am not mistaken.
There may be repro heat shields that are designed to accept M1917 bayonets out there.
Too bad there was no top folding stock for these puppies (steel)
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The Mossberg 500 is a nice gun and goes bang every time. Finish is so-so but you get what you pay for. I would recommend buying a stock Mossberg 500 and getting the NEA AR stock/grip adapter for it.
The tactical tri-rail version comes with a junky ATI pistol grip / stock setup that you'll just want to swap out anyway, so save yourself the money and just buy a stock Mossberg 500 and upgrade to the NEA adapter.
The tactical tri-rail version comes with a junky ATI pistol grip / stock setup that you'll just want to swap out anyway, so save yourself the money and just buy a stock Mossberg 500 and upgrade to the NEA adapter.
I love when people are starting with the ghost ring sights and all this tactical BS without realizing the basics.
GR will slow You down in CQ no matter what.
Shotgun is CQ weapon and if You are not planning to hunt with it (tactical models are not really designated for that anyway) You are loosing both money and time going that way.
Here is something to watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdW2TAfN3mQ
GR will slow You down in CQ no matter what.
Shotgun is CQ weapon and if You are not planning to hunt with it (tactical models are not really designated for that anyway) You are loosing both money and time going that way.
Here is something to watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdW2TAfN3mQ
Except he completely forgot to mention remingtons recent QC standards and the fact his older 870s were built before remington stopped caring. Not needing but preferring something doesnt make it wrong to own it. He is basically a die hard remington fan that wont look at other options, a solid opinion but not a golden standard by any means.
