Tavor 7 .308 bullpup moves the needle
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So the RFB was hated by many for a vast array of reason, some where cause it was all plastic( in reality only the lowers), the lower was bolted together in a clamshell fashion, the mag release was not at the same location as an AR it was behind the mag, it pistole grip was part of the lower and not compatible with ar grips, its accuracy was limited to around 1.5 to 2 moa....
So all I am seing here is evem more plastic, more expensive, less accurate and checks almost all the dislike box the rfb checked for those critics save it is from iwi instead of kel tec!
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Key distinction. One is reliable. Other is not
So the one that is unrelease is realiable! The one that hasn't really ben tested part from paid for youtuber! But the one thats ben out for like 10 years but omg you need to tune the gas for 150, 165 or 180 gr. And then it is 99.8% reliable, truly ambidextrous and ALOT less expensive but yeah WHOA DUDE the tavor 308 is going to destroy the rfb.... just like the .5 moa 1000% reliable mdr was going to!.....
Keltech was 100% reliable. Provided you adjusted the gas system properly for the ammo type you were using. No different than any other gas operated gun with an adj gas block. Not enough tavor 7's in civilian hands for me to comment on reliability
My RFB was very reliable, and I didn’t touch the gas settings from factory. It ran everything from 110gr V-max to 200gr soft points. The tavor looks neat, but I wouldn’t really call it a game changer in the .308 bullpup world, that’s a pretty small world, what part of that world exactly did it change?
I personally think that owning a gas adjustable gun with such an adjutabilaty range and not adjusting it from where it came from the factory a bit foolish(no insult ment). So of it is cycling with your tammer loads just fine and you shoot your hottest load all that extra energie is just beating on the inside of the gun, and you are also increasing recoil. Plus it is a 2 way adjustment not something complicated at all.
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So the one that is unrelease is realiable! The one that hasn't really ben tested part from paid for youtuber! But the one thats ben out for like 10 years but omg you need to tune the gas for 150, 165 or 180 gr. And then it is 99.8% reliable, truly ambidextrous and ALOT less expensive but yeah WHOA DUDE the tavor 308 is going to destroy the rfb.... just like the .5 moa 1000% reliable mdr was going to!.....
I'll try and decipher whatever language that was written in... but a tavor 7 is based off the tar 21 and x95 but upsized... and those have proven their mettle in conflict.
This gun. Time will tell how well it rolls but the kel tec was maybe reliable if the gas was tuned right. Which is already laughable.
Is the tavor 7 itself going to be reliable? No clue. Time will tell. But the rfb we already know is not a high round count gun amd finnicky on ammo and gas settings. Along with being a pain to clear stoppages on in an expedient fashion.
Not really, the entire action is different. The bolt has AR-like radial lugs instead of the TAR's AK-like lugs, and is designed to switch ejection side just by rotating the bolt. It also uses an adjustable short-stroke piston instead of the TAR's (again, AK-ish) long-stroke piston. I think we can presume it will be robust as a firearm made by a reputable military arms company, but it's not at all the same gun.
It is not accurate to call this gun based off the Tar or X95, in my opinion.
I might not be too proficient in english as it is my second language but if really you need to decipher what I wrote you might be lacking in reading comprehension
The fact that it is base off a tar 21 or x95 is as about relevant as relevant as its color! The simple fact is that a auto loading 308 is more unreliable by nature due to the greater variations in bullet weight, dimension and powder charge, the lack of standardization of magazine, milspec parts and sheer testing.
Just look at the ar15 DD is reconize as behing one of the best ar manufacturers but still they had teething issue with there 308 ar's as did most ar15 manufacturers that jumped on the ar10 bandwagon! Why did ATRS have so much issues with there modern hunter line(308) wen they had so much experience with ar15? Also why wen they went afterwards to adapt the MH to 223 (MV and MS) did they hace practicality no issues? Cause 223 is alot simpler period!
I am ruthing for the 308 Tavor but just cause its the new flavor of the week like the mdr was a couple of years ago that dont mean that it's going to be any better then the RFB!
And the fact that iwi and the tavor have a great reputation that doesn't mean anything just look at Desert tech and there mdr...
I found it shot just fine at that setting with everything I tried. Why mess with a good thing.
Wrong area of the world to see any of the benefits. If our own military used or law enforcement and surplus filtered out into the civilian market, then yes there would be a benefit to us.
It is the same as saying we benefited from HK firearms being deployed in another part of the world, which we have not
