Tavor anyone's thoughts?
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masterhunter22
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Can someone quickly point out the differences from the first generation Tavor (November 2010 - looking at one) to the current ones (or should I just buy the current one), other than the flattop? Much apprecaited.
blaxsun
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The first-generation Tavors had a Meprolight M21 reflex optic that mounted directly to the barrel assembly, as well as a front flip-up BUIS and semi-fixed rear BUIS. Dlask and CanadaAmmo both manufactured low profile rails (the Dlask rail was longer and mounted lower). The earliest versions had a solid hand guard, and later ones had a pre-drilled hole for mounting a bipod. These initially shipped with a mil-spec bolt which caused sporadic slam-fires when using commercial grade ammunition (switching to ammo with mil-spec primers resolved this). These were later upgraded with a new civilian bolt and spring for the firing pin.
The second-generation (current) Tavors have a flat top rail, with integrated front and rear flip-up BUIS. No optic, although some apparently also have a second set of removable BUIS in addition to the integrated ones. The hand guard on these is also pre-drilled for a bipod as well. This generation features the civilian bolt with spring.
CanadaAmmo imported several CTAR (380mm length) barrels for those interested in converting their Tavor from non-restricted to restricted (quantity unknown, but they are fairly rare). These IWI factory barrels, while not match barrels - are apparently very accurate.
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The first-generation Tavors can still be a good deal (depending on condition and round count), especially if they come with the M21 sight (since you can usually sell this for a few hundred dollars). However, unless you're able to source a low profile picatinny rail, the Tavor barrel wrench and the Armorer's manual -
you're going to be limited to the M21 (not everyone's preference). You'll also want to confirm that the bolt has been upgraded - otherwise you'll need to source a new bolt and spring for the firing pin.
Hope this helps, but if you have any additional questions fire away!
blaxsun
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blaxsun
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Well Ian got back to me on my Tavor. Sounds like the 300blackout conversion is a go after his inspection. Also found out the newer versions of the Tavor with the full rail are a real ##### to get the barrel out thanks to a loctited top rail.
blaxsun
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
That's exciting! (you're a trailblazer!!) That's good to know about the rail on the new Tavors. I imagine by the time I get around to getting one out to Ian he'll have had lots of practice.
Welll....One is really long, and the other is really short, for starters.
blaxsun
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
One's mostly steel, one's mostly polymer...
One's a brick, one's more like a foam brick... (in terms of weight)
One's black, one's green(ish)...
One will set you back an arm and a leg, the other just a leg...
blaxsun
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
IMHO...
The Tavor is superior in ergonomics and handling. Maintenance I think they're both on-par (the Swiss may have a slight edge, but there've been next-to-zero issues with the Tavor). Performance and aiming I'm going to give the the Swiss, though. The big disadvantages to the Swiss is that it weighs a ton, it's huge, it's expensive as sin and accessories (like the top rail) are fradiculous.
Swiss and Tavor are completely different rifles. Like comparing a high end 6" revolver like a Python (Heavy, long but very accurate) and a 4.5" Glock (light, swifty, modular and "Plastic"). Tavor wise, the user can do more on maintenance, such and barrel change, bolt changes, right hand switch to left hand etc, while the Swiss is pretty much all set, no change at all at user level.
And I do feel that the Tavor barrel change system is very smart. You do not need a torque wrench like the LMT to do the job right.
Eventually I bought both.
PS. Anyone looking for the armorer manual please pm me.
And I do feel that the Tavor barrel change system is very smart. You do not need a torque wrench like the LMT to do the job right.
Eventually I bought both.
PS. Anyone looking for the armorer manual please pm me.
blaxsun
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Sweet. What length are you going with?
Haven't decided if going with a integrated or added. Honestly an extra inch on the barrel from an added flash hider isn't a big deal to me. Of course its going to be 18.5" in total length though.
