Teen shot in face by man hunting at night near Pulp River, Manitoba

Just think of how little guessing would be going on if the 'news' actually reported on exactly who was involved, eh?

In this event though, it really doesn't much matter what set of flexibly applied rules the shooter may have been running under, as he is still a turd for shooting at something he could not clearly see.

And will pay accordingly, even if only in that community.
 
I think everyone is jumping the gun on this one. it doesn't really say the kid was shot after hunting hours. not sure if manitoba is the same way but here in saskatchewan you can shoot from 30 mins before sunrise to 30 mins after sunset. the sun set at or just after 650 and the cops were called just after 730. the guy could have been tending to his victim/ panicking for 11 mins and still have fired at a legal time. you don't always have to jump to Indian even if it is easy to do especially in manitoba. if the kid was shot 10 mins after legal hours I don't think that automatically means it was a native night hunting. I've heard plenty of shots just before and just after in first day of deer season.

The shooter is native but coming from Duck Bay which is just a few miles north of the Pine Creek Res. I don't think he is status...There has been a lot of trouble around here with night hunting for decades...The hunters coming out of the Pine Creek area are serious about what they do and have a huge area that they travel...Mostly because their near by area has been shot out for years already...I have buddies 3 hours west in Saskatchewan and 4 hours south in Manitoba that run into Pine Creek poachers...I mean hunters.

As far as being dark...From what the neighbours say it was after dark...Just enough so a seasoned hunter could not tell a human from a beaver...That's pretty dark...Although I doubt the shooter thought it was a beaver...I would bet dollars to doughnuts he thought he was shooting a white tailed deer.
 
The shooter is native but coming from Duck Bay which is just a few miles north of the Pine Creek Res. I don't think he is status...There has been a lot of trouble around here with night hunting for decades...The hunters coming out of the Pine Creek area are serious about what they do and have a huge area that they travel...Mostly because their near by area has been shot out for years already...I have buddies 3 hours west in Saskatchewan and 4 hours south in Manitoba that run into Pine Creek poachers...I mean hunters.

As far as being dark...From what the neighbours say it was after dark...Just enough so a seasoned hunter could not tell a human from a beaver...That's pretty dark...Although I doubt the shooter thought it was a beaver...I would bet dollars to doughnuts he thought he was shooting a white tailed deer.

thanks for giving some better info on the situation. I imagine those are the guys from manitoba everyone talks about coming into moose mountain provincial park and clearing out the elk.
does status vs non status change the legality of night hunting in 40lb?
 
I always thought it was the natives could have their free for all, but only on reserve land? They have to follow hunting laws (save bag limits), on crown land or with permission on private. And private or posted land they still require permission like the rest of us?

Or am I wrong?
 
I always thought it was the natives could have their free for all, but only on reserve land? They have to follow hunting laws (save bag limits), on crown land or with permission on private. And private or posted land they still require permission like the rest of us?

Or am I wrong?

Here in Manitoba status have free rein on all crown land with next to no rules and metis have some sort of harvester card system with some limitations but not many...In Manitoba it seems like we have had a metis population explosion since the harvester card came to be...Thanks again to the NDP buying elections with no regards to the consequences of their hairbrained policies.
 
Ok, so it's different in Saskatchewan then. Manitoba is going to be an interesting place when all the animals are gone...
 
Ok, so it's different in Saskatchewan then. Manitoba is going to be an interesting place when all the animals are gone...

They're currently working on outlawing night hunting. The Metis Federation is on side. This incident won't help the argument of those in favor of night hunting. Shooting at night always poses a safety concern unless done like in European countries from a tall blind over bait. That's why the wording in our regulation is asinine.
 
Yeah it's a pretty sad and dangerous situation...Here in Manitoba it has a lot to do with the NDP and the last 12 or so years they have had to Fyke things up...Brian Pallister and the new PC Government are trying but old habits are hard to break...If not impossible...Hell, last year first nations were pushing to get the right to hunt, if that's what they want to call it even on private land without permission.

http://www.gov.mb.ca/sd/wildlife/hunting/firstnations.html

Bold. I'm sure a lot of farmers would be going to jail defending their land if that happened.
 
Got a email Update on the 16 year old shot by FN night hunter from a neighbour of the victim...

Zane was shot with a 22 magnum when the RCMP were going through his jacket the bullet fell out onto the kitchen floor. The MRI showed the bullet some how took a zig- zag path missing his jugular . The rescue helicopter got a few minutes out of Dauphin when a bunch of warning lights and buzzers went off so they returned to Dauphin and had to wait for the air ambulance plane to come from Wpg. The problem with the helicopter turned out to be a loose fuel cap. It will be a long road to recovery with more operations and reconstructive surgery.
 
The whole rights based hunting thing has been corrupted beyond any reasoning. This is the 21st century and us here in canada sit by and watch the last of the large ungulates get killed beyond their threshold by a group of folks that comprise the fastest growing population in the nation. Gutless pack of politicians. All political parties should assemble and forge some decent safe regulations, quotas, seasons and methods of harvest for the sake of the animals if nothing more. Such a greedy species we are...
 
Update on night hunting victim...

Subject: Zane's progress

Hey everyone Zanes surgery went really well today, it was as good an outcome as we could have hoped. They repaired his jaw, surgeon said it was broken in 7-8 pieces and some couldn't be fixed so he took them out all together. He has three metal bands stabilizing the front and sides of his lower jaw now (but not wired shut!). Not sure if he'll lose teeth that depends on blood flow. The hyloid bone in his neck is fractured but it has to heal on its own. He'll be six weeks before it's all healed and will have to be very careful. There will be rehab with a laryntologist to help his vocal cords and swallowing. While still very swollen his airway is stable and all major blood vessels are intact. This was a one-in-a-million chance that it happened the way it did my son is still here and mostly intact (!) and we feel so so so lucky. Not sure exactly when we r getting out of here, by mid-week we could be home and on the road to recovery. Thank you all for your love and support so we did not have to go through this alone. I can't begin to thank you enough or tell you how much your caring and concern have meant to us.
 
This guys should be suing the federal/provincial govt for allowing Indians to hunt at night which is clearly a health and safety issue.

A girl in Regina just won 9 million against the U of R because the pool she was diving in wasnt safe....allowing Indians to night hunt isnt safe at all.
 
Excellent outcome. Kids that age are as tough as it gets. Hope he heals up well.

Update on night hunting victim...

Subject: Zane's progress

Hey everyone Zanes surgery went really well today, it was as good an outcome as we could have hoped. They repaired his jaw, surgeon said it was broken in 7-8 pieces and some couldn't be fixed so he took them out all together. He has three metal bands stabilizing the front and sides of his lower jaw now (but not wired shut!). Not sure if he'll lose teeth that depends on blood flow. The hyloid bone in his neck is fractured but it has to heal on its own. He'll be six weeks before it's all healed and will have to be very careful. There will be rehab with a laryntologist to help his vocal cords and swallowing. While still very swollen his airway is stable and all major blood vessels are intact. This was a one-in-a-million chance that it happened the way it did my son is still here and mostly intact (!) and we feel so so so lucky. Not sure exactly when we r getting out of here, by mid-week we could be home and on the road to recovery. Thank you all for your love and support so we did not have to go through this alone. I can't begin to thank you enough or tell you how much your caring and concern have meant to us.
 
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