The Infidel - update w first group

greenpasture, when a Barnard bolt is pushed forward all the way, open or locked, there is usually zero sideways movement of the bolt. I have not measured the wiggle of a BAT but it does wiggle (most actions do) and the Barnard does not. The Barnard has a tapered bolt so it still operates freely but goes to zero fit when closed. Try this with any action you have, with no load on the spring of course.
 
i get a chuckle out of how some people throw around "aircraft grade" as if its some huge deal. aircraft grade doesn't mean a metal has been though a V.A.R process and with todays use of the word it doesn't mean much besides the fact that alloy is used on an aircraft.

some engine parts and other critical parts will be made out of steel which has been though a V.A.R process however a lot of other parts made from the same material wont.

so by that standard any machine shop has tons of "aircraft grade" material, 4140, 4130, 4330, 4340. i mean if rick really wanted to he could market his action as 15-5PH aircraft grade because 15-5ph is a very common alloy on aircrafts and there is no actual specification on "aircraft grade"

as for 4340 vs 15-5ph ( both being either V.A.R or E.S.R) 15-5 is typically more expensive and harder to work with.

Strictly speaking you are correct, it is slang not specification but we are going for TRUTH and FACTS here not deception. Aircraft Grade implies as an industry common terminology that it comes with certain specifications such as AMS 6414 which is a vacuum remelt. I don't buy steel by the ton but when I searched long and hard for a supplier for 4340 vac remelt, EVERY single supplier that listed "aircraft grade" listed either AMS 6414 as a spec or told me it was vac remelt, I did not run into any deception by any of the suppliers. None used VIR or ESR and none were able to supply me except for an end user I contacted.

I will call Monday and get specs of Surgeon's 4340 from the horses mouth. I'll ask about his bolt body clearance as well. I don't really care what he uses but if there is any deception I would like to clear the air.
 
greenpasture, when a Barnard bolt is pushed forward all the way, open or locked, there is usually zero sideways movement of the bolt. I have not measured the wiggle of a BAT but it does wiggle (most actions do) and the Barnard does not. The Barnard has a tapered bolt so it still operates freely but goes to zero fit when closed. Try this with any action you have, with no load on the spring of course.

What BAT are you talking about three lug or two lug BAT?
 
WOW!!! Take a vacation and have to read 11 pages of drama because a Canada based company has finally done what almost every other company here has dreamt of.

Good on ya Rick.

How soon can I trade my 2 custom actions in for 2 of yours? LOL
Nothing would make me happier then to have Infidel on the side of my gun. PREACH IT!!!!
 
WOW!!! Take a vacation and have to read 11 pages of drama because a Canada based company has finally done what almost every other company here has dreamt of.

Good on ya Rick.

How soon can I trade my 2 custom actions in for 2 of yours? LOL
Nothing would make me happier then to have Infidel on the side of my gun. PREACH IT!!!!

Aren't you still involved with the company? You should have the inside track on this should you not?

I think it's somewhat disrespectful of Rick to promote other actions or businesses in his thread. Very ####ty.
 
Thanks alot again, Rick!

Awaiting the lefties! :dancingbanana:

By the way Rick, what type of trigger will work with your action? Approximate cost?

Any trigger that will fit a 700 will fit our action. I installed a plain old 700 trigger in this 1 for the Gun Show as I really don't care if it got broken with all the handling.
I do have Jewels to go into them, but would be a tad choked if a Jewel had gotten damaged at the show. Not eveyone treats things with care and some guys (like me:redface:) can be clutzs that drop stuff unintentionally
 
Rick,

Just wondering why you went with the stock remington safeties and not a bolt mounted 3 position one? (I am assuming that this is primarily a tactial action (ie it can accept mag systems))

Simple, I don't like bolt mounted safeties and wanted to keep as many replaceable parts easy to replace. I plan to be around for a long time, but can not predict the future, so feel it better for others who purchase our products to be able to get replacement parts easily should I be abducted by Lieberals and vanish from the planet.

The actions are repeaters and set up for DBM but single shots are also easy it just means skipping 1 part of the machining process.
 
Aren't you still involved with the company? You should have the inside track on this should you not?

I think it's somewhat disrespectful of Rick to promote other actions or businesses in his thread. Very s**tty.

I agree but unfortunately am getting used to being bashed, called out and shown little respect by some on this forum, but THANK YOU for the post and thoughts.


In fact Glock has NOT been in any way involved with ATRS for over a year now.
We still remain friends however.
 
Aren't you still involved with the company? You should have the inside track on this should you not?

I think it's somewhat disrespectful of Rick to promote other actions or businesses in his thread. Very s**tty.

Though I live within miles of the ATRS shop, I've been a little busy traveling lately. Last I'd talked to rick, he asked me what I thought of the logo and I approved. I have been so busy after getting back from WMC in Miami I haven't even gotten a chance to make it down to the Calgary gun show. As for my involvement with ATRS, I'm merely just a customer now and a supporter because I know from where he's come and how hard it's been.
 
I think it's somewhat disrespectful of Rick to promote other actions or businesses in his thread. Very s**tty.[/QUOTE]

As for this comment, Show a little Respect.
 
Gone for a couple days and I have to read through 12 pages of bashing again. Have some respect for peoples accomplishments!

Congrats on finally getting your action out Rick. Canadian's can always make it better. I look forward to the first picture of it sitting in a nice stock at your private range this spring!

I think I may have to hold off on my .338 LAI build until the Maverick action comes out after seeing this one.
 
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Gone for a couple days and I have to read through 12 pages of bashing again. Man you guys are getting F*in annoying. Have some respect for peoples accomplishments!

Congrats on finally getting your action out Rick. Canadian's can always make it better. I look forward to the first picture of it sitting in a nice stock at your private range this spring!

I think I may have to hold off on my .338 LAI build until the Maverick action comes out after seeing this one.

Why don't you have some F...in respect, asking technical questions, is part of bringing out a new product.
 
Not sure if you are asking me that question? I can shoot and don't need to take pictures and post them for anyone to see.
What I do want is when someone claims to have a superior product, that there be some type of proof, I have not said once I would not buy this action.
If I am going to spend over $2000 for an action it has to look more than nice, made in Canada, and claims of superiority with out proof.
 
Just buy the rifle I'm selling.

I've got a great deal on all the brass you will ever need and a hefty supply of bullets and powder.:)
 
Asking technical questions is fine, but when the maker gives you an answer and you don't believe him that's whats getting annoying. Then you start calling him a liar and I don't think that is fair.

I called him a liar? I haven't even had an answer on anything, I have made my mind up already, and so have a lot of others.
 
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