"The legendary 1911 idiot scratch'

I buy my guns to shoot them and yes scratches suck but wow you would think all the 1911's owned by the owners of this thread are in a beauty pageant haha but hey that just means I get cheaper used guns so " power to the diva's :rockOn: "
 
The reason the "idiot scratch" is so "critical" is because it indicates the handler (owner) doesn't know anything about handling a 1911. Then follows the question " what ELSE " did they do to the gun in their "ignorance" that is NOT SO EVIDENT but could be MORE CRITICAL... Squibs?, "modifications" etc?
 
Take heed fellas...Apparently if you put one of these scratches on a 1911 then you don't know anything about handling a 1911.
 
Mark-II said:
..., considering the bolt drops against the cylinder and rides against it between chambers.
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Perhaps that is the case on some revolvers. However, on a well-timed Python for example, the bolt drops into the leade any never touches the "outside" of the cylinder. Even when cycling the cylinder fast this is the case.
 
This SHTF stuff, 1911 scratch will happen... In 2013 just out of the dealer with my new Vette, recieved a golf ball size rock that shatered my winshield from a truck in front of me, turn back to the dealer and had the winshield change the day after, 20 Km on the car, guess i knew nothing about driving... JP.:rolleyes:
 
Back in the day, a scratch was a scratch, a sign that the gun was being used; not abused, but used. Now, some guys baby their guns...because they are mostly just range toys anyway. Sure, no-one wants a scratch, but the propensity for it to occur is inherent in the design. You don't have to be careless or sloppy to incur a scratch of this type.
 
caramel said:
This SHTF stuff, 1911 scratch will happen... In 2013 just out of the dealer with my new Vette, recieved a golf ball size rock that shatered my winshield from a truck in front of me, turn back to the dealer and had the winshield change the day after, 20 Km on the car, guess i knew nothing about driving... JP.:rolleyes:
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Depends on how close were you following this truck in your brand new, just off the lot Vette? :p
 
NVShooter said:
Back in the day, a scratch was a scratch, a sign that the gun was being used; not abused, but used. Now, some guys baby their guns...because they are mostly just range toys anyway. Sure, no-one wants a scratch, but the propensity for it to occur is inherent in the design. You don't have to be careless or sloppy to incur a scratch of this type.
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Yes for sure. Also these day, people are trying and buying a lot more guns and then flipping. if i find something I really like that I' know i'm going to keep as a shooter, I'm not too fussed about a little wear. If i'm on the fence, i'll baby it to minimize my loss.
 
I scratched the SAM commander stainless that I received earlier this week. I did it field stripping the gun for the first time.

The slide stop wouldn't come out easily. I was adjusting the slide to make sure it was lined up, but I think that some of the preservative that the gun was soaked in had hardened. I had to push from the other side pretty hard and when it popped out I accidentally pulled it down the frame with my other hand. Fortunately, it isn't a $3,000 gun.
 
Purple2 said:
I scratched the SAM commander stainless that I received earlier this week. I did it field stripping the gun for the first time.

The slide stop wouldn't come out easily. I was adjusting the slide to make sure it was lined up, but I think that some of the preservative that the gun was soaked in had hardened. I had to push from the other side pretty hard and when it popped out I accidentally pulled it down the frame with my other hand. Fortunately, it isn't a $3,000 gun.
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ARGH!...on the up side...stainless is a little easier to self-repair.
 
NVShooter said:
Back in the day, a scratch was a scratch, a sign that the gun was being used; not abused, but used. Now, some guys baby their guns...because they are mostly just range toys anyway. Sure, no-one wants a scratch, but the propensity for it to occur is inherent in the design. You don't have to be careless or sloppy to incur a scratch of this type.
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Agreed. I'm always suspicious of people with flawless firearms and clean, undented Jeeps.
 
superted said:
The reason the "idiot scratch" is so "critical" is because it indicates the handler (owner) doesn't know anything about handling a 1911. Then follows the question " what ELSE " did they do to the gun in their "ignorance" that is NOT SO EVIDENT but could be MORE CRITICAL... Squibs?, "modifications" etc?
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Total BS
It's just a scratch. All it says is that the gun's been used.
 
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NVShooter said:
Back in the day, a scratch was a scratch, a sign that the gun was being used; not abused, but used. Now, some guys baby their guns...because they are mostly just range toys anyway. Sure, no-one wants a scratch, but the propensity for it to occur is inherent in the design. You don't have to be careless or sloppy to incur a scratch of this type.
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I agree. If you're cleaning a 1911 often enough, it's going to happen. I've done it, and I'm plenty competent with a 1911.
 
NVShooter said:
Back in the day, a scratch was a scratch, a sign that the gun was being used; not abused, but used. Now, some guys baby their guns...because they are mostly just range toys anyway. Sure, no-one wants a scratch, but the propensity for it to occur is inherent in the design. You don't have to be careless or sloppy to incur a scratch of this type.
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I'm with NVShooter. All my guns are used but not abused, sh*t happens. I don't own collector pieces or "safe queens". If someone wants to take a substantial hit on a sale because of a scratch, I would consider that your loss, my gain.
 
Just my opinion.....but I just wouldn't buy it. It's called an "idiot" scratch for a reason...

If you're too dumb to properly disassemble and reassemble a 1911, what else have you buggered up on it?

I have seventeen 1911's and one double barrel AF2011. All are disassembled regularly and not one has an idiot scratch on it.

Would you you buy a used car from a DIY mechanic that cross threaded all his lug nuts? (Putting lug nuts on correctly is akin to taking down and putting together a 1911 correctly). You would (rightfully so) ask yourself what else he ####ed up on the car
 
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