The NEW KING is taking off!

[Ardent]

Nice little gun. I like them.

Seems we're on the same field, just different positions, my RSM, with the 300gr TSX seated to 3.875" will do 2700-2750 fps on H4350 without breaking a sweat from its 23" barrel. I imagine it would pick up a few FPS going to a non-solid copper bullet. Scaled back 3" to 20", we're talking the same difference.

 

[Gatehouse]

I haven't tried the 300gr TSX yet, but if I do, I will let you know. I do know they work good on cape buffalo, I've watched dozens of buff die quickly from them

 

[joe-nwt]

When the 300WSM was announced, I heard exaclty the same thing "Better stock up on brass, since this cartridge isn't going to last more than a few years"

That was 2001

Well it seems to have held true for the 223WSSM.....

 

[Ardent]

In fairness, the Ruger's no WSSM.

 

[joe-nwt]

Of course not. But people suggested to stock up on brass and they were right. So far, I don't see why the Ruger will fair any different. There never was a huge demand for 375's before it came along, and outside of a typical amount of enthusiastic people now, I don't see a huge demand for one now. Only time will tell if the demand is enough to warrant continual manufacturing.

 

[Tumbleweed]

The .375 Ruger....an answer in search of a question. A solution to a problem that's been solved for a century....

This "New King" is a fraud....a pretender; a pale and pasty faced 'fancy boy' in ruffed collars, padded shoulders and curly toed shoes who dazzles the gentry with his fashion and flair. Sad, really.......those weak spirited and fickle fashionistas who abandon the proven to follow the trendy.

Those tragic few who fall prey to the seduction of the .375 Ruger should research the Edsel. They'll probably want to buy one for a hunting car.

 

[Salty]

The Edsel was a fine automobile. As was the Studabaker. And the AMC Rambler, Ambassador and AMX.

Hard to get parts for though

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Now that's a pretty happening banana

 

[iroc22]

Don't forget the Packard.

 

[H4831]

The Edsel was a fine automobile. As was the Studabaker. And the AMC Rambler, Ambassador and AMX.

Hard to get parts for though

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The Edsel was just like the popular phrase said, "A Ford with a horse collar."
Studabaker had a long, great history, but was always under rated, because of all the hype from the big three.
A 1929 Studabaker Erskine looked, at first glance, like a 29 Ford Model A, but it was so superior, it was in a different league.
The great Packard straight eight cars represented the glory years of the motor vehicle. There was such a vast difference between them and the lower class GM prducts.

 

[Gatehouse]

Well it seems to have held true for the 223WSSM.....

I think I said 300WSM, not 223 WSSM....

Lots of new cartridges were doomed right off the bat. The SAUMs were doomed before they even got going. The WSSM's were never going to go anywhere, either. Winchester should have just necked down the WSM to 243, 257, and built rifles with appropriate twists for heavier bullets and they would have had something reasonably exciting.

But the NEW KING is not a WSSM or a SAUM. It's the most exciting development in .375 cartridges for the last 99 years

 

[SuperCub]

But the NEW KING is not a WSSM or a SAUM. It's the most exciting development in .375 cartridges for the last 99 years

Wrong!! ....... The biggest/exciting/useful developement forward in the last 99 years would be the 222 and 223 based cases. Think of the number of people who shoot them compared to those who will use a 375.

As for the so called " new short mags", there is nothing new there either as the 7mm/300/338/458s as well as related spin-offs have been around since the 50s when man decided to use surplus 98s for custom work.

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[Gatehouse]

Wrong!! ....... The biggest/exciting/useful developement forward in the last 99 years would be the 222 and 223 based cases. Think of the number of people who shoot them compared to those who will use a 375.

I don't know any .375 caliber cartridges based on .222 or .223 cases. I think it woudl be a funny shaped cartridge.

As for the so called " new short mags", there is nothing new there either as the 7mm/300/338/458s as well as related spin-offs have been around since the 50s when man decided to use surplus 98s for custom work.

Irrelevant. What is relevant is that you can buy 300WSM ammo and bras anywhere this stuff is sold, in spite of the "stock up on brass" comments from 2001/2002

 

[Ardent]

As a died in the wool H&H man, I still see the Ruger having legs. It won't be a wildly popular cartridge, but it won't fade into oblivion either. I see it as the 10mm Auto of rifles, all the design cues make sense, it's conventional in form and caliber, and it's pretty damn potent and runs higher pressure than its competitors. It's also new/modern, and appeals to that crowd, being available in "the very latest" rifles.

The 10mm hangs in there, with its vocal following, just as the .375 Ruger seems to be gathering, but it has never become mainstream as it's just more than most need. Same for the Ruger. I just sold my last 10mm, and yes it was hard to gather 500+ brass, but yes it's a great cartridge too, as I'm sure the Ruger is. I think the Ruger will always be there, sales will dim a bit in coming years, but not cease, and every once in awhile a new manufacturer will pick it up for awhile keeping it alive. Brass will always be available, though tough to find at times. Mark my words, this is the Ruger's future, and I see that as fairly bright. Being a .375, and a new one, it'll never move out of the niche market, and the widespread familiarity that comes with a century of use the H&H has enjoyed will keep it number 1 by a large margin.

 

[Salty]

The Edsel was just like the popular phrase said, "A Ford with a horse collar."
Studabaker had a long, great history, but was always under rated, because of all the hype from the big three.
A 1929 Studabaker Erskine looked, at first glance, like a 29 Ford Model A, but it was so superior, it was in a different league.
The great Packard straight eight cars represented the glory years of the motor vehicle. There was such a vast difference between them and the lower class GM prducts.

Another great oldy was the Nash. My dad's first car was a 1924 Nash touring car - he would have bought it in the 40s. I saw a picture of one in a book. Holly smokes man, fit for a king or what?

Then there's the extinct Fargo and International pick up trucks both of which made pretty good bush trucks. The old man had a 62 International 'cornbinder' 4x4 that he used for guiding back when. I swear that sucker could climb a tree in low range. I think it made about 50 mph flat out. Which was a good thing it rode like a tank!

Hmm. I guess we can add Pontiac, Buick and Oldsmobile to the list now. ..

 

[H4831]

Without doubt, it is now time to crown GATEHOUSE, as King! No one else could come up with 58 pages and 574 replies!!!
No other thread could start out on a simple gun theme and end up? with classic, vintage automobiles!
Here's to, King Gatehouse, with his Consort, the 375 Ruger.

By the way, the old cornbinders were great trucks, I have driven the KB6 and KB7s.
But the worst pick up I ever drove, and sadly, drove it quite a bit, was a 1949 Fargo.

 

[two-dogs]

Last half dozen Rugers I loaded for gave MOA or sub MOA accuracy with no real trouble.

Like any rifle, adjusting the trigger and bedding made them better. OOTBA with the NEW KING and handloaded 260gr Accubonds was a nice cloverleaf.

Rugers shoot fine, most people that complain about them are thinking about a problem they had with outsourced barrels 3 decades ago...

Well said, Gate. We have many many Rugers, all shoot splendly!
Quote: "Thank you Bill Ruger for a fine firearm at an affordable price" >Ed Matunis. A well know firearms tester and author of firearms books and data.

 

[LeRoy]

I learned how to drive in a '60 Fargo w/a V8, 4 speed. In gear, had enough play, you could go from side to side, about three feet of play!! Go like snot!

Oh yeah, this is about the GREAT 375R....
picked up mu #1 laminate from Clay at the Lloyd gun show today I will post pics tomorrow.
Now, if I can find somewhere to get cases, and a box or two of loaded cartridges!!

 

[Salty]

Without doubt, it is now time to crown GATEHOUSE, as King! No one else could come up with 58 pages and 574 replies!!!
No other thread could start out on a simple gun theme and end up? with classic, vintage automobiles!
Here's to, King Gatehouse, with his Consort, the 375 Ruger.

By the way, the old cornbinders were great trucks, I have driven the KB6 and KB7s.
But the worst pick up I ever drove, and sadly, drove it quite a bit, was a 1949 Fargo.

My back is getting sore just thinking about that one. lol

 

[two-dogs]

Holy catfish!, there are 58 pages at this point, gonna take me 3-4 days to read em all. Hell, I have a Win 94 in 375 Win that I haven't even fired yet!
I can't comment on the 375 Ruger. Is there any comparison in the two?

 

[Salty]

Holy catfish!, there are 58 pages at this point, gonna take me 3-4 days to read em all. Hell, I have a Win 94 in 375 Win that I haven't even fired yet!
I can't comment on the 375 Ruger. Is there any comparison in the two?

I have a Marlin in 375 winchester. She share the same bore size but that's where it ends. The 375 winchester has tradjectory about like a 30-30. The 375 Ruger about like a 30-06. You will find your rifle is quite capable to 200 yds but not much more. ..