The new NR NoDak Spud NDS 18SC

God bless us with better laws regarding firearms.
Its insane how we can’t take an ar15 or ar10 out to the woods hunting or target shooting.
Like an ar-180 is any different then an ar-15.
 
God bless us with better laws regarding firearms.
Its insane how we can’t take an ar15 or ar10 out to the woods hunting or target shooting.
Like an ar-180 is any different then an ar-15.

It is different though? completely different mechanisms, different receiver styles, control locations etc.
The ar180 is a predecessor to the 15, 10 being a long action version of the same.
The APC223 and Bren is similar to an AR180 operation and not an ar15.

The thing common is the trigger group components, the magazine well and bolt to barrel interface, but that's common across more than a dozen firearms

Not that I'm happy they are banned, id like them all to be NR to be honest, if they trust us to buy them they should trust us to follow laws too
I think the laws are coming from uneducated standpoint rather than something that would actually make a difference. Easy to point the finger at the black gun people already don't like, rather than coming out with a boring policy that actually works and doesnt interest the people.

Personally, it should be harder to get a PAL, physical exams, stricter safety testing, not having prior violence history etc., and after that everything can be free to use as a NR rifle is today, no need for any classifications.
If they did, I'm certain, we PAL holders would still respect those laws and violent crime would not rise.
 
It is different though? completely different mechanisms, different receiver styles, control locations etc.
The ar180 is a predecessor to the 15, 10 being a long action version of the same.
The APC223 and Bren is similar to an AR180 operation and not an ar15.

The thing common is the trigger group components, the magazine well and bolt to barrel interface, but that's common across more than a dozen firearms

Not that I'm happy they are banned, id like them all to be NR to be honest, if they trust us to buy them they should trust us to follow laws too
I think the laws are coming from uneducated standpoint rather than something that would actually make a difference. Easy to point the finger at the black gun people already don't like, rather than coming out with a boring policy that actually works and doesnt interest the people.

Personally, it should be harder to get a PAL, physical exams, stricter safety testing, not having prior violence history etc., and after that everything can be free to use as a NR rifle is today, no need for any classifications.
If they did, I'm certain, we PAL holders would still respect those laws and violent crime would not rise.

Sorry, but what do you mean by "physical exams"? If the person is handicapped? What should happen, no PAL? Or if a person can't run a 1km in less than 5 min, is that a fail? This is very tricky and broad statement.
 
Firearms and ammo should be tax free. Part of our national defense. Instead we have idiot bb in charge and Turd trying to wake the sleeping dragon. We are going to need our guns.
 
It is different though? completely different mechanisms, different receiver styles, control locations etc.

The ar180 is a predecessor to the 15, 10 being a long action version of the same..... .

This statement (bold) is factually incorrect. Model #18 typically follows Model #15 in the developmental process. The AR-18/180 was in fact developed AFTER the AR15, as an alternative service rifle for countries lacking the sophisticated aluminum forging capability required to manufacture the AR15. This is precisely why (aside from the Barrel, Bolt, Bolt Carrier and Springs and Guide Rods) the AR18/180 is comprised mostly of stamped and folded sheet steel or machined castings. The 3-Piece, Short-Stroke Piston Gas System of the AR-18/180 is is arguably its greatest contribution to the field of modern Small Arms design. The Short-Stroke system has been emulated largely unchanged in the HK 416, the HK G36, the L85A2, CZ Bren 2, and many other modern designs.
 
This statement (bold) is factually incorrect. Model #18 typically follows Model #15 in the developmental process. The AR-18/180 was in fact developed AFTER the AR15, as an alternative service rifle for countries lacking the sophisticated aluminum forging capability required to manufacture the AR15. This is precisely why (aside from the Barrel, Bolt, Bolt Carrier and Springs and Guide Rods) the AR18/180 is comprised mostly of stamped and folded sheet steel or machined castings. The 3-Piece, Short-Stroke Piston Gas System of the AR-18/180 is is arguably its greatest contribution to the field of modern Small Arms design. The Short-Stroke system has been emulated largely unchanged in the HK 416, the HK G36, the L85A2, CZ Bren 2, and many other modern designs.

I wish a Canadian manufacturer would have setup a shop to build original stamped Ar180's instead of the mountain of garbage options we have now.
 
I wish a Canadian manufacturer would have setup a shop to build original stamped Ar180's instead of the mountain of garbage options we have now.

Agreed. Aside from the Buttstock attachment point (flimsy), the AR180 is a solid service rifle. It is on the cheap/crude end of the spectrum, but served the IRA respectably during "the Troubles" in Northern Ireland throughout the latter half of the 20th Century. Give the stamped Lower Receiver a Picatinny Buttstock interface, adapt the Lower to take an AR15 Trigger Mechanism, Nitride the rifle inside and out, then call it done.


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Agreed. Aside from the Buttstock attachment point (flimsy), the AR180 is a solid service rifle. It is on the cheap/crude end of the spectrum, but served the IRA respectably during "the Troubles" in Northern Ireland throughout the latter half of the 20th Century. Give the stamped Lower Receiver a Picatinny Buttstock interface, adapt the Lower to take an AR15 Trigger Mechanism, Nitride the rifle inside and out, then call it done.


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Beauty.

Not bad for accuracy...

 
The 3-Piece, Short-Stroke Piston Gas System of the AR-18/180 is is arguably its greatest contribution to the field of modern Small Arms design.
I would not agree to that. Same 3-piece short-stroke system was used in SVT-38. Evolved into SVT-40, Kar.43, FN-49 and the FN FAL. And again, well before AR-18. And even SVT-38 was not unique in its gas system, MGs of of 1890x-1910x had it all. So AR-18 piston gas system is just an evolutionary iteration.
 
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