The OIC has hit milsurps

purple said:
Because too many people voted Liberal in 2015 and 2019, and I'm not being facetious.

Please pare this down to the basics. The Liberals WILL take your guns, incl your beloved MILSURPs. The Conservatives WILL NOT. This has been the pattern and the plan for the last 50 years and its moving along incrementally.:rey2 The only solution is direct political action; join the CPC, donate to the CPC, work for the CPC come election time, and for God's sake vote.
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The Lieberals have swept the recent tragedy, the mistakes made and illegal guns used under the rug and delivered on their misguided mandate during a pandemic for perceived political gain.

Their next election mandate will be you know what ...
 
Just like to mention here that the vaunted and ballyhooed Charter of Rights and Freedoms carefully excludes property rights but the CANADIAN BILL OF RIGHTS 1960 DOES protect property. It is still the law in this country, even though the Liberals have been studiously ignoring it for 6 decades now. In fact, the Charter actually VIOLATES the Bill of Rights in several ways, starting with the actual writing of the thing before it was handed to a compliant Liberal Parliament.

In the Preamble to the British North America Act of 1867, mention is made of OTHER Rights which the people of Canada have inherited and still possess. These would include
the Bill of Rights 1689 which specifically includes arms
Magna Charta 1215 in which the King put HIMSELF under the constraints of the LAW.
and likely a few others, some going back as far as King Offa.

Sir William Blackstone was the ultimate authority on the Common Law, which is the actual BASIS of our system. His final 4-volume edition of his Commentaries on the Laws and Institutes of England is STILL in print owing to the fact that the American Constitution is based on the Common Law as it existed in 1765. Blackstone says in the FIRST volume, in discussing the Rights AND DUTIES of Parliament that Parliament has the power to ENLARGE the freedoms of the people but it does NOT have the power to restrict or rescind any of the existing Liberties and Freedoms and that if these are transgressed, they STILL EXIST and may be applied simply by appealing to them.

ANOTHER thing Blackstone mentions is a list of the basic Rights of the citizens, then states that the freedom to possess Arms is the SINGLE UNDERPINNING RIGHT WHICH MAKES ALL OTHER RIGHTS POSSIBLE.

There should be SOME wiggle room in there for a smart lawyer who can actually read and has the guts to be RIGHT.
 
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All true and all ignored by successive governments.

Burlew and other pro-gun rights lawyers could take this on whereas none of us has the legal smarts or resources.

What it would take to challenge this in court would be costly, but I think it is the ONLY solution to our problem, short of armed revolution which we know Canadians do not have the stomach for.

No gun org or any other approach has a snow ball's chance in hell of succeeding. Our track record to date is proof of that.
 
purple said:
Because too many people voted Liberal in 2015 and 2019, and I'm not being facetious. The only solution is direct political action; join the CPC, donate to the CPC, work for the CPC come election time, and for God's sake vote.
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What is the point when after Ontario and Quebec vote, the outcome is assured and the west voting is simply a matter of form?

A definition of insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly, expecting different results each time. We've been doing this since 1867 and it has always had the same outcome.
 
A very CAREFUL reading of the Canadian Bill of Rights (1960) could open a few doors on our behalf.

The power is IN IT to effect huge changes but the power MUST be USED.

Reading it CAREFULLY, one will discover that it is more than a sop; it forbids ANY law which negates its provisions, to the full extent that the new law is in violation of the Bill.

The Bill is supreme.

That is precisely WHY it is ignored.

This CAN be remedied.
 
So let's not just TALK about it, let's take action !!!!

And soon, before there is a "false flag" that causes immediate confiscation and round up of banned guns.

I put nothing past Kommissar Trudeau who openly admires Kommunist governments.
 
The directorate of controlled goods give an exemption for pre-1946 material. Even the US State department gave an exemption for pre-1956 material. These jackasses have effectively closed off the collection of these historical items from the private collector.
I have several pieces of now prohibited items on loan to the local DND museum. Once things open up again, I guess I can collect them and bring them home, and they will not be available for loan again.
As if the threat of Covid, and the potential of job loss, were not enough, now I have to suffer under the loss of a good deal of assets.

######s.
 
It's almost amusing, in a perverse way, that people find it "surprising" that militaria as well as more benign "hunting" and "target" rifles have ended up on the list. Did you think that there would be reason and logic applied to the prohibitions?

Now, apparently, some lawyer has said there's nothing anyone can do other than hope the Conservatives end up in power and can overturn the OIC as well as C-71. What's the fun in that? File your Section 74 appeals (on Restricted firearms that are now Prohibited) and make a stink about it. Besides, the clock is ticking on the current minority government - the average life span is less than two years...
 
What do the Lieberals have planned for the future that leaves them so terrified of Canadian subjects possessing mortars .50's, 20mm's and the like?

Auggie D.
 
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The Liberals are appealing to their urban power base where gun control plays well because people are frightened by illegal guns and crime. Unfortunately, meaningful enforcement of existing gun laws isn't practiced, so throwing out more laws makes it look like they're actually doing something. :sok2

Beyond that, they are buffing up their hopes for a UN Security Council seat by sucking up to the UN's Global Diarmament agenda and playing at social engineering and virtue signalling.:rey2
 
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