The T97 Thread!

Hey so I just got a Type 97 Gen 3 from Tenda today. I took it out on a brief range trip to try it out, and had a single instance where it fired a 2 round burst. From what I understand, it's not unheard of for the Type 97 to do this on rare occasion. My question is, should I return it to Tenda for a new one? My main concern is whether or not it's legal.

It’s called a slam fire and it’s ammuntion related. The primer wasn’t seated deep enough and the firing pin struck the primer without the trigger being pulled when that round cycled into the chamber. I’ve had that happen a couple times on my Kel-Tec SU-16.
 
so i found a brass catcher from pla or look like and funny it seems as a left hand shooter it s solving a few issues. up to the time one brass is going back to the mechanism but now im not worried about catching the brass in the fly.
 
It’s called a slam fire and it’s ammuntion related. The primer wasn’t seated deep enough and the firing pin struck the primer without the trigger being pulled when that round cycled into the chamber. I’ve had that happen a couple times on my Kel-Tec SU-16.

I thought it was that, but that should only happen with a sticky firing pin, shouldn't it? Mine appears to be moving freely. I did end up taking my type 97 into the gunsmith and they couldn't narrow anything down, said they never got it to slamfire using the ammo I was using and other brands. It happens fairly frequently too. Tried to sell it but nobody wants it. I don't really want a slamfiring gun so I dunno what to do with it.
 
I thought it was that, but that should only happen with a sticky firing pin, shouldn't it? Mine appears to be moving freely. I did end up taking my type 97 into the gunsmith and they couldn't narrow anything down, said they never got it to slamfire using the ammo I was using and other brands. It happens fairly frequently too. Tried to sell it but nobody wants it. I don't really want a slamfiring gun so I dunno what to do with it.

Could be trigger technique related...try to make a concious effort to let the pressure off the trigger as soon as it goes bang.

If you are keeping partial pressure on it (tempting with such long trigger travel), you just might be holding it at a "sweet spot" of sorts, where the recoil will be enough to make it go bang again.
 
I thought it was that, but that should only happen with a sticky firing pin, shouldn't it? Mine appears to be moving freely. I did end up taking my type 97 into the gunsmith and they couldn't narrow anything down, said they never got it to slamfire using the ammo I was using and other brands. It happens fairly frequently too. Tried to sell it but nobody wants it. I don't really want a slamfiring gun so I dunno what to do with it.

When you said gunsmith, was it the Tenda warranty you took it to? If it’s happening frequently and you got it new directly from the authorized dealer, pursuing warranty seems to be the way to go instead of trying to sell a gun you have safety concerns about. Just my 2 cents.
 
When you said gunsmith, was it the Tenda warranty you took it to? If it’s happening frequently and you got it new directly from the authorized dealer, pursuing warranty seems to be the way to go instead of trying to sell a gun you have safety concerns about. Just my 2 cents.

I took it to my local gunsmith hoping they could remedy it. But yeah I did just hear back from the warranty services. The thing that really puts me off going that route is it'll likely take a long time before I get it back. I just want it dealt with asap, especially with how frequently changes to our laws happen. But it looks like warranty services are my only option at this point.
 
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I took it to my local gunsmith hoping they could remedy it. But yeah I did just hear back from the warranty services. The thing that really puts me off going that route is it'll likely take a long time before I get it back. I just want it dealt with asap, especially with how frequently changes to our laws happen. But it looks like warranty services are my only option at this point.

You're probably bump firing it.

Hold it tighter.
 
I took it to my local gunsmith hoping they could remedy it. But yeah I did just hear back from the warranty services. The thing that really puts me off going that route is it'll likely take a long time before I get it back. I just want it dealt with asap, especially with how frequently changes to our laws happen. But it looks like warranty services are my only option at this point.

Take it to the range with the ammunition that is giving you trouble and let someone else shoot and see if the problem persists
 
I thought it was that, but that should only happen with a sticky firing pin, shouldn't it? Mine appears to be moving freely. I did end up taking my type 97 into the gunsmith and they couldn't narrow anything down, said they never got it to slamfire using the ammo I was using and other brands. It happens fairly frequently too. Tried to sell it but nobody wants it. I don't really want a slamfiring gun so I dunno what to do with it.

To make the rifle Canada-compliant, Norinco had to remove a number of components designed for the Automatic version. One of these components was the device that kept the hammer from falling until the bolt has returned to battery. Because of the strange recoil impulse caused by the rocking recoil buffer in the stock, not only is it an easy gun to accidentally bumpfire, it is also possible to pull the rigger and release the hammer before the bolt has completed it's forward cycle. This will not cause an out of battery detonation, but it can cause a slamfire.

The main issue is the bolt's long, slow travel time. There's a few things you can do:

1. Grease the receiver rails. This has the double effect of speeding up the bolt and decreasing the "lock time" - the sometimes noticeable pause between trigger pull and the bang
-1b. If you're willing , I also took 1000 grit sandpaper to the rails and contact surfaces of the BCG and hammer. (Just a little, not even enough to affect the finish on the metal) Mine slides like glass.
2. Replace the recoil spring. The factory spring on the Gen 1 is pretty weak. Get a standard weight AK recoil spring and snip off a few coils (I cut off 6). Speeds up the bolt and reduces felt recoil.
3. Practice better trigger control. Keep the trigger firmly held down after each shot. If you hold the trigger too loosely, the odd recoil impulse can cause you to inadvertently pull it again.

Hope this helps.
 
Can anyone source or 3D-print that cheek riser and make it compatible with T97?

Can anyone source (whether genuine or cloned) or 3D-print that cheek riser and make it compatible with T97? Thanks.

QBZ bullpups of the Djibouti base detachment. 2nd Gen Defender top rails, various optics.


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That HOB is obscene! Lol

People buy and sell military items of older configuration, be it milsurp or newer semi-auto. There is more to owning items than high-speed-low-drag 3-gunning top scores or combatting the latest equipped Klingons, sometimes it is interesting to keep a certain level of authenticity. The configs in the pic about are authentic, used in deployment.
 
If you're using it with a red dot, it's actually pretty comfortable. There's a crease in the top dust cover where you index your chin and having your head up feels natural. There's a reason why those ultra-tall unity mounts are getting so popular.

Yes but those particular setup's HOB is so damn high. A chest hold at 15 meters probably means your hold over is above the head lol
 
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