Could be, I didn't read much into it. So, 223 ar aside, what are those that own a Beowulf or 458 upper (if anyone) expected to do to stay within the law currently? Has anyone posed that question to the RC's or had any experience with that?
Theoretical AR Magazine Loophole?
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AlbertaGunslinger
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Hmmm... the .458 socom thing is a good idea because in that RCMP release regarding the "loopholes" and such they stated that the limit is for the calibre it is designed for.
They are no longer Importable due to ease of modification.
I agree, Change the language,there is no "loopholes",Only the application and current interpretation of our laws as they are written. We should be carefull as to what we wish for,the stroke of a pen and we loose what we have now. Don't misunderstand me though the laws are shadeily written in a manner to purpously confuse the masses(us) and they ....well suck. In the meantime till we get REGULAR capacity mags back we got what we got.
As far as a marketable extension this has been tried, everybody wants something ,but does not want to spend the $$$ on such an item(very NICHE market). I will however continue to make for myself and the select few that are willing to purchase my own extensions. Untill there is enough interest to commission manufacturing I will continue to do these at home. Anyway I'm officially on holidays and going shooting for a week..Yahoo!!!
Of course the game of life is rigged, but if you don't play, you can't win......
As far as the ruling to approve the LAR 10 round magazine goes, the interpretation was not universally well received. There were those who disagreed with it, and would have preferred an interpretation that any magazine in a semi auto centerfire rifle had to be limited to 5 rounds. The ruling, as made, is in exact accordance with the letter of the law. It is not a "loophole", unless the good folks who drafted the law did not understand what they were writing. This is a possibility, of course, given how poorly drafted the Firearms Act is.
Dude.. First things first it's not a loophole... This is how they worded the legislation.. You say loophole you make it sound dirty or close to illegal which it's not...
next it would need to be a mag specially designed for a pistol not a rifle magazine adapted to fit the pistol..
and last you'd need to get magpul on board for a very small market..
So overall this is a fail..
Definition of "loophole":
With regards to the magazine capacity legislation, there is no "omission or ambiguity" in the wording of the law, in fact the legislation is very specific on how to determine the capacity of a magazine.
The problem had always been (before our ruling) that most people just assumed the law said that capacity was limited by the firearm in which the magazine was used in (semi-auto centre fire rifle = 5 round limit and handgun = 10 round limit)... but in fact they weren't actually reading the wording as it was written.
The LAR-15 ruling (and the Beretta CX Storm ruling before it) were based on the correct wording of the law... that is NOT a loophole.
A loophole (to my way of thinking) is when the RCMP/CFC, Prosecutors and Government use the amibiguity in the legislation to basically classify 100's of firearms as prohibited "variants" simply because the legislation failed to define what exactly the term "variant" means and so the RCMP/CFC use that omission and ambiguity" to twist the law into what they want it to mean instead of what it was intended to be.
Mark
A way of escaping a difficulty, especially an omission or ambiguity in the wording of a contract or law that provides a means of evading compliance.
With regards to the magazine capacity legislation, there is no "omission or ambiguity" in the wording of the law, in fact the legislation is very specific on how to determine the capacity of a magazine.
The problem had always been (before our ruling) that most people just assumed the law said that capacity was limited by the firearm in which the magazine was used in (semi-auto centre fire rifle = 5 round limit and handgun = 10 round limit)... but in fact they weren't actually reading the wording as it was written.
The LAR-15 ruling (and the Beretta CX Storm ruling before it) were based on the correct wording of the law... that is NOT a loophole.
A loophole (to my way of thinking) is when the RCMP/CFC, Prosecutors and Government use the amibiguity in the legislation to basically classify 100's of firearms as prohibited "variants" simply because the legislation failed to define what exactly the term "variant" means and so the RCMP/CFC use that omission and ambiguity" to twist the law into what they want it to mean instead of what it was intended to be.
Mark
Or move to the far North. Plenty of people up here still using 30 round mags in their Mini-14's.
They are no longer Importable due to ease of modification.
I agree, Change the language,there is no "loopholes",Only the application and current interpretation of our laws as they are written. We should be carefull as to what we wish for,the stroke of a pen and we loose what we have now. Don't misunderstand me though the laws are shadeily written in a manner to purpously confuse the masses(us) and they ....well suck. In the meantime till we get REGULAR capacity mags back we got what we got.
As far as a marketable extension this has been tried, everybody wants something ,but does not want to spend the $$$ on such an item(very NICHE market). I will however continue to make for myself and the select few that are willing to purchase my own extensions. Untill there is enough interest to commission manufacturing I will continue to do these at home. Anyway I'm officially on holidays and going shooting for a week..Yahoo!!!
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Nice looking extension... would love to purchase one to take a closer look at it. Depending on pricing we might be interested in helping you market this (if you like). We had a similar design that we tried to have made a couple of years ago but the costs were just too high for what we figured was a very limited market and so we gave up on the idea.
Mark
Silver_Back
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+1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I plan on getting a whole swack of LAR 10 round once i finish building my AR-15, and i would purchase one of those for each and every one of my 10 round mags!
MikeTheRock
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- Calgary, AB
I've always found that the LAR coupler tends to work its way out, perhaps from recoil or just plain old handling of the lower mag. Do those extensions have a way of preventing that?
I just finished running six of theose extensions on a two day carbine course. They worked very well. I used regular Magpul's to help pull them from my pouches and they fit with no issues. I had no problems shooting prone usign the mag as a rest or having the extensions fail due to unintended stepping on.
They are an awesome idea and product.
Sam
They are an awesome idea and product.
Sam
