Think we're in for another shortage?

Arcosdad said:
Social popularity? I have no interest in his social popularity. Here's what "buffoon" is normally meant to convey:
"Usage: Frequently used to describe public figures viewed as stupid, incompetent, or foolish by opponents."

My negativity towards him doesn't really matter but how US citizens perceive him, does. His low approval ratings have to do with his performance/results vs. what he promised, for example: his handling of the economy and starting the war. I do admire his bias to action (compared to the endless cheap talk we have in Canada) and he got very good results at the southern border.
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Like I said, many people like you get confused easily.

To answer the OP, yes I think we are headed for another shortage.
 
Craig0ry said:
Do you guys think we are in for another shortage? Shelves have been fully stock for awhile now. I don't see a lot of small arms ammunition being used during this skirmish, but also didn't think the Russia Ukraine Conflict was going to affect supply and it did, given that's a ton of small arms ammunition.

Just curious on your thoughts. I've had enough to ride out the last 3 shortages. Also not worried about another.
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The situation here in the GTA (Ontario) is already getting a bit annoying. Trying to find a 1440-round crate of surplus at a reasonable price feels like a treasure hunt lately. I’ve been scouring GP, and while there seems to be some inventory left out West or in the Prairies, once you factor in the 'Canada Post tax' (shipping costs), the savings over buying fresh Red Box (Norinco)
 
network404 said:
The situation here in the GTA (Ontario) is already getting a bit annoying. Trying to find a 1440-round crate of surplus at a reasonable price feels like a treasure hunt lately. I’ve been scouring GP, and while there seems to be some inventory left out West or in the Prairies, once you factor in the 'Canada Post tax' (shipping costs), the savings over buying fresh Red Box (Norinco)
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Did a little search on GP today, cheapest I found was $.36 a round. That's close to Red Box prices as is
 
Craig0ry said:
Did a little search on GP today, cheapest I found was $.36 a round. That's close to Red Box prices as is
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You are buying red box for a little bit more than $7.20 a box including tax?!?!
Where, as I d like to buy some. I am stocked with Czech, but once in awhile im too lazy to clean and this would be prefect .
 
SigWig said:
I'm a little short on 7.62x39 soft points as a shtf scenario but ok otherwise. Just can't find them at a price that screams at me...
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Me too but I bought a little .308 150 gr SP to go with my ball stash so I'm OK. Anything a 7.62x39 can do, a .308 Win can do better and at longer range.

I track my ammo by weight. 30 lbs per small tupperware tub. Just count the tubs and multiply by 30..........
 
I always assume a shortage (or the standard ever climbing prices) is on the way, so I buy components whenever I can.
I've also started target shooting in smaller calibers to lessen costs.
I can't imagine what components are going to cost in 5yrs. $200/lb powder? 50cent each primers?
 
Surplus 7.62x39 is done for reasons that don’t have anything to do with Iran. North sylva confirmed in another thread a couple weeks ago that none has been imported in several years, meaning what is in the country is what there is. Most countries that used it have switched to 5.56 rifles in the last 10 years or so and sold off all their surplus or donated it to Ukraine. The small/developing countries that still use it don’t make it domestically they get it from china or Russia. Norinco is around 60 cents now and if we ever embargo china the same way we did Russia 4 years ago, that is the end of steel cased 7.62x39. Bulk brass cased ammo from Europe is almost a buck per round, not much cheaper than 308 realistically.

The sks will go the way of the sporterized Lee enfield eventually. Everyone will still own them but only keep half a box of ammo on hand and they won’t get shot much.
 
Ungrateful said:
Surplus 7.62x39 is done for reasons that don’t have anything to do with Iran. North sylva confirmed in another thread a couple weeks ago that none has been imported in several years, meaning what is in the country is what there is. Most countries that used it have switched to 5.56 rifles in the last 10 years or so and sold off all their surplus or donated it to Ukraine. The small/developing countries that still use it don’t make it domestically they get it from china or Russia. Norinco is around 60 cents now and if we ever embargo china the same way we did Russia 4 years ago, that is the end of steel cased 7.62x39. Bulk brass cased ammo from Europe is almost a buck per round, not much cheaper than 308 realistically.

The sks will go the way of the sporterized Lee enfield eventually. Everyone will still own them but only keep half a box of ammo on hand and they won’t get shot much.
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Id say most countries that used it have since switched to 5.45
 
Light Infantry said:
They will use their own citizens to make bio-fuel.
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"Soylent Grease"
Craig0ry said:
I'm way off sorry,
local private deal here for $11.25 a box
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Several sponsors have the $11-ish price for Reds. Tenda is $11.99 - 25 boxes (plus 'something cheap') gets Free Shipping. Shipping is what gets many people if not in GTA, etc. & taxes of course. IMO Red box is No Better in accuracy than CH-MS.
As 'Ungrateful' said, Surplus is a vanishing resource; only smaller shops have any 'real supply' left. . . or basements. I just cracked my 'last can' in January. The only GP ads near me have it 100 miles or further and the cost of a round trip is more that UPS likely would charge. Still watching . . .
 
scotteboy said:
I always assume a shortage (or the standard ever climbing prices) is on the way, so I buy components whenever I can.
I've also started target shooting in smaller calibers to lessen costs.
I can't imagine what components are going to cost in 5yrs. $200/lb powder? 50cent each primers?
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During the primer shortage, and I mean in the last four years, they were $1.00 per primer, or $1000.00 for a brick of 1000........:(

CCI large rifle 200's and CCI 250's were almost impossible to find during the shortage.....:(

Expect these stupid prices to come back.:oops:

Keep in mind these were primer scalpers, not retail dealers asking these ridiculous prices!
 
bearhunter said:
As a person, I don't have much use for Trump, but much of what he and his supporters have done had to happen sooner or later.

The writing was on the wall over ten years ago that the measures taken by the US had to happen.

The US "dollar" has been the Fiat currency of the world since WWII, and the proceeds from the trade fees of that currency pay for much of the US world police activities, and much more.

When WWII ended, it was found that there were only two major currencies capable of carrying that weight and responsibility for international trading. One was the US, and surprisingly, Japan. Japan had set up a public "tithing" system where every citizen had to give the government 10% of all their profits, to be banked for public emergencies, and provide retirement/savings. The money was held in the World Bank, and records were kept of every individual's contribution.

As we know, a lot of Japanese didn't make it through WWII, and similar to our own CPP, when all of the recipients passed, the remaining funds were left in the kitty. Many low income Japanese were multi millionaires when they passed.

For many years after WWII, along with a lot of other things, those excess funds rebuilt Japan too an economic and industrial powerhouse. Japan never did allow the "BANKS" to dictate monetary policy.

By the end of the Viet Nam war it soon became apparent to Japan that being the "other" Fiat currency of the world came at a high cost.

It became too easy to bring in money from the proceeds of the "traded" currency fees, and they were letting develpment of industry slide.

There was enough money coming into Japan's coffers to make it easy for them to dump money into "social assistance" programs, and they did.

Finally, by the early nineties, they pulled their currency off the world stage as a trading platform and started redeveloping within their own borders, and building up their armed forces, under the constraints placed upon them by the WWII declarations.

There is much more to it, but there are hundreds of books written on the details.

The US is in a similar place, and if they want to stay at the top of the international food chain, they will have to "fix" a lot of issues.

That fix, just like Japan, will not be well viewed by many.

IMHO, it's too bad we don't have a "Trump" taking care of Canada.
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Bearhunter I hope the blinded by TDS have been miraculously cured by your post. It’s 100% factual and brutally honest. Canadians have to step outside of their old skin and realistically weigh international options. Ask themselves “Why is Carney fighting everything Trump and really trying to get more Chinese money into Canada?”

I’m sure old Marcus’ investments will skyrocket while giving away the country that belongs to our sons and daughters for pennies on the dollar. No money should be leaving Canada for wars/conflicts without a 75% confirmed vote by Parliament notwithstanding whose in power at the moment. *That needs to be written into the new Constitution Canada will have to create once we finally cut the cord with the Royal Family*
 
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