The $250 is not for each rifle, that's for each application.
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The $250 is not for each rifle, that's for each application.
This is "extra step" is greatly overlooked.
USA: manufacturer --> retailer --> customer
Canada: manufacturer --> importer --> retailer --> customer
That's one more man that have to take his "cut" on the gun. So basically, not only the gun is more expensive because of both governments BS fees, but "we" have to pay an extra middle man too.
lol this thread is just full of a bunch of complainers. suck it up or find another distributor to get your supposed cheaper prices. trying to look for valuable info in this thread to a new person trying to sift through all your bs is like shooting straight up and trying to find where the bullet went afterwards.
no insult intended, im just saying.
no insult intended, im just saying.
Back on the SUB topic, are you bringing in the front quad rails and rear stock mag holders as well??
If you want someone to blame for outrageous prices, blame the government. It's parasitic ways leach capital from the market with no effort or risk. Export taxes, Import taxes, business licenses fees, business taxes, business property taxes, sales taxes that compound at each step of a products delivery, income taxes for employees that must be passed onto the consumer, fees for "rifle approval" from the federal government, fees for delivery across the country, the cost of an extra barrel 2.5" longer, the tax on a delivery truck, the income tax of the driver, the cost of pinning mags to 5, the cost of mandating french on our packaging, the taxes that each individual retailer must pay. It is the only reason that a $300 item would double twenty minutes across an imaginary line called a border. People, you are living on table scraps! Needless to say I still plan on buying one.
if he doesnt someone else will.
I googled a bit and many people in the US compare the Kel tec 2000 to the High Point Carbine 995TS. I know that the Hi Point is restricted in Canada but this has absolutely nothing to do with import prices.
The question remains why the Hi Point is sold at $349 and 379 from Kodiak and Epps while the Kel Tec is at a lofty $675?
In the US the difference is around $40.
Arguments remain the same, so why the high price?
The question remains why the Hi Point is sold at $349 and 379 from Kodiak and Epps while the Kel Tec is at a lofty $675?
In the US the difference is around $40.
Arguments remain the same, so why the high price?
Vault Distribution
expired Dealer
i called just to find out about the kel-tec line and by the end of the call i was talking to getting my local shop as a dealer and hell we even touch on the "price pyramid".
I read it and my question still remains, the Hi-Point carbine was also only offered in very limited numbers at first.
I guess it's impossible to keep the price down if 3 companies (Vault, Wolverine, retailer businesses buying from Wolverine) all want to make their profit.
You are still short to explain to me why the Hi-Point carbine is at the low price and the Kel Tec 2000 at the high price.
I am kind of a logical mathematic type of person, numbers work well for me, so far the only number I have seen is $250 application fee and maybe another $100 fee and some transport costs, and that's for all rifles on one papers, so if I bring 500, the fee for each rifle is about $250 + $100 + $2,000 (transport)/500 = under $15 each. I still wonder where the high costs are,...
Even if there is another $5,000 magical fee somewhere, breaking it down to one rifle is a mere $10.
If I was Vault Distibution, I wouldn't have bothered to explain myself this much. People can choose to charge whatever they want for their services and customers in turn can choose to not buy said services/product.
The fact that these rifles are already spoken for tells me that they are a fair deal.
The fact that these rifles are already spoken for tells me that they are a fair deal.
F22_RaptoR
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Edmonton, Alberta
Cost cuts in quantity. As a guy that has dealt with machine shops and ordering custom parts, i know how cost breakdowns work...
If Vault ordered 100 or 500 it may be on Kel Tec's "low volume" cost setup. It may take 1000 or more to get good cost breakdown, and that dealers in the US buy large quantities.
especially when a company is fairly small and growing rapidly like Kel Tec. They may get orders for a certain number and have to wait to get the machines free to make parts (switch out injection molds, set up tooling for receiver/barrel machining). A company that's been around for a long time and has most or all of their initial startup costs covered can probably deal with MUCH smaller price decreases for dealers.
Say it takes me 50 dollars to make a said accessory for getting 20, but it goes down to 30 bucks if I order 50 or more... If I own the machine to make those parts, it costs what I pay for the material plus the electricity (if the machine is payed off) so if I ship only 10 to a customer, I can get away with selling them for a low price point of 30 bucks...
I think it's okay to give feedback on pricing, even if it is not glowing. It's related to their market research really. I suggest the message of not overdoing it is understood. Paying $50 for surplus FAL mags, for example, is overdoing it by a long shot. Maybe it is related to the high dollar as well. We got hosed back then, doubling the price of guns, and now another economic formula related to permits, etc. is doing the same thing. We never seem to get a break and that's not blaming dealers per se. These products look great, though. Too bad we have to be selective on which one we want the most instead of buying them all.
Vault Distribution
expired Dealer
We will be bringing in the accessories as well. The Sub 2000 quad rail is out of stock with Kel-Tec but they are expecting a shipment the first week of December.
And again sorry we won't have any spare magazines for the RFB for available. Maybe in the new year, if we find a decent price on them. We are working it.
And again sorry we won't have any spare magazines for the RFB for available. Maybe in the new year, if we find a decent price on them. We are working it.
dudley2112
Youth Group Leader
- Location
- Ottawa, Ontario
does anyone have the sub2000 in stock yet?
