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“Performs better” how? There are a LOT of variables between guns that can affect “performance” that are not gauge related.
To buy a .410 or not to buy a .410
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Falconflyer
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The 28 g is definitely not a "glorified" 410
Better more consistent patterning, if it works for you great, use whatever you like
just relating my experience. I have even tried aftermarket extended choke tubes, made very little difference.Licensed to kill
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OK, I was just wondering what you meant by “performance”.Better more consistent patterning, if it works for you great, use whatever you like
saskgunowner101
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That's one of those things that you read (a 28 is a glorified 410), and it's a safe bet to discount pretty much anything else the person has to say...
antiqueguy
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For squirrels and rabbits in overgrown wood lots .410 is great my old bolt action mossberg patterns good enough. Would I use it for wing shooting not really then again I don’t do much of that.I can see a legitimate use for the smaller guns, 410 and 28g in sub gauge competitions but for hunting purposes I personally am not a fan. I own both 410 and 28g guns as well as 20, 12 and 10 gauge. IMO for hunting you are handicapping yourself with a 410 or a 28g. Just my experience and opinion, I know they have a loyal following but I am not impressed. Yes they kill at very short ranges but so will a slingshot. My nickname for a 410 is a “cripple stick” and find the 28g to be a glorified 410. I am referring to upland game hunting not waterfowl. They do not pattern as well or kill as well as a 20g in my experience and if the only reason to buy one is to save weight for carrying purposes there are light weight 20g guns that are available. When I was young my first shotgun was a borrowed Cooey single shot 12g. Kicked like a mule but killed like a bazookaFor me the 20g is the sweet spot for upland hunting but again just my opinion and experience, use whatever you like that works for you.
antiqueguy
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That’s odd I find that if the shot column is closer to the same length as it is bore diameter patterns rent to be better. Longer columns tent to have a huge shot string.
I have a chiappa double badger
.... 410/22 magnum
Not an expensive gun ,but I have had no issues with it...it works and hits where I aim it
Falconflyer
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Shot column's that are closer in length to the diameter typically do give the best patterns, they're called a square load.
"I bought 1oz loads for the 28g and my 20g still performs better with 7/8 oz loads than the 28 does with 1 oz."
That wouldn't surprise me to see that on the pattern board, the 20 g load is much closer to square than the 28 g load.
A nice older broken in but still tight bolt action .410 would be my nirvana for small game. Saw oner on the CSSA marketplace a while back but the postal strike was stopping me for going for it but then it was not listed anymore.
The .410 to me is the universal great caliber/guage gun.
The .410 to me is the universal great caliber/guage gun.
The 28 gauge patterns very nicely with 3/4oz loads, not nearly as good with 1 oz loads. The 3" loads for the 410, typically pattern very poorly.
Well not my 28g, blows a hole in the centre of the pattern regardless of what choke or load combo used. That’s reason I thought I would try the 1oz loads because the 3/4 oz didn’t pattern very well, the 1oz was not much of an improvement.
I currently have two 28 gauge shotguns, and have owned three others, and I haven't had any patterning issues with any of them.
What 28 gauge do you have?
Well I have had several Huglu and the last 28g single shot was an aberration it was the worst patterning gun I have ever had.Both my other Huglus were not exceptional but well within what I would call ok.Weatherby Orion in 20 g is better than the Huglus but only a smidgeon. Yes Friday guns do happen.My go to is a SKB 20g sxs which does pattern much better with 2 3/4 20g than 3".As for .410 and hunting no never.
My gun also has the 3 inch chambers, not sure if that makes a difference. Fit and finish on the gun is very good it also hits where it’s pointed, barrel regulation is decent no complaints other than poor patterning and killing performance on grouse. I even tried aftermarket extended choke tubes but saw little improvement over the stock tubes. I also have a .410 just to have one in my collection but as you say I agree, not for hunting. My 28g is at best a 20 yard gun, hence my comment of being a glorified.410. Not sure if it is the way the forcing cone is bored or the 3 inch chambers but it does not pattern well and killing performance suffers. I spent the majority of my 50+ years of hunting using 12 and 20g guns, will stick to my 20g guns for upland hunting.
