TRG is going to get a bit lonelly at it's price range. As well as A7 rought tech and

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If you are a big fan of finish precision and you were going to drop a coin on a new TRG, you might want to hold off a bit. Same for the A7 rought tech/ pro versions - consider them gone.

Sako 85 Gray Wolf:

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4.2 kgs, all sako 85 calibers, cheap magazines, compared to TRG that is. Lighter. Most likely significantly cheaper than TRG, way more appealing than A7.

Arriving at IWA 2017. Some specs leaked at official site

http://www.sako.fi/rifles/sako-85/85-black-wolf
 
Interesting, I have a TRG 22 and a A7 roughtech. This isn't either rifle, heavier than the A7 which I use for hunting. Lighter than the TRG which does not matter because I don't walk around with it.

Be curious to see how heavy the barrel will be. Looks similar to the A7 profile . The A7 barrel needs to be cooler to get good groups. TRG seems to be consistent if I get it hot.

Not much info on the stock, roughtech and TRG both sit in an aluminum chassis type stock. Hopefully this will as well or be bedded .

I'll take the TRG trigger over the A7 any day, and every other rifle that I've shot . By far one of the best triggers I've used.

Price will be deciding factor, wait and see on that. The long range 85 run $3000 or more.
 
It seems to me, that A7 has very little niche as a hunting rifle:

- Finlight is way lighter
- Tikka has ton's of aftermarket options
- 85 has all the "oh tha'ts nice wood" options

A7 has no aftermarket. Still heavy at 3.4 kg. 3 Shot plastic magazine only. Harder to fit scoped due to small pic rail mounts.

85s and Tikka's beat A7 on the hunting front easily. On the "tacticool/precision" front A7 can't play at all - no options, no magazines, just a heavy hunting rifle.

On the TRG side of things. Yes TRG is a very nice rig. However it is very limited - practically only one type of stock. Only original parts, mags all that. There are ton of options competing at $5k plus range.

Now, if you look at 85 gray wolf it would push TRG from the lower price range as an out of the box heavy stock range gun. If you are limited on the money gray wolf is a more appealing option - everything on 85 is cheaper.

If only 85 didn't eject long brass into the scopes )))))))
 
TRG 22 start at $4000, TRG 42 at $5000. The stocks are very comfortable to use. Fully adjustable. Cadex actually has an option for the TRG series if one really wanted to change stock setup. KRG make a replacement stock as well. Mags are crazy priced but mags are over $100 for a 85 series as well.

In reality why would you spend that kind of money on a rifle that a stock change would be necessary? Same as the black wolf, not spending money on it to change out the stock. If a rifle doesn't fit right to start with why spend money. I'm not a fan of chassis style stocks, shot both Cadex and AI chassis and prefer the stock on the TRG. That's a personal thing nothing wrong with those chassis stocks.

The standard 85 series classic in wood weigh as much as the A7 roughtech pro. There's about $700 difference in price as well. If weight is a huge issue then the options are as much money as you would like to spend. Carbonlights are more than a TRG 22. The standard A7 is lighter as well.

I have no issues mounting a 30mm scope tube on my A7. Use same bases as Browning A bolt. No different than any other rifle I've dealt with. I have it mounted as low as possible .

3 shots I would hope would be enough for hunting, if I need more that's a really bad day.

Like anything it's all personal preference for what you look for or like in a rifle. I liked the roughtech pro. Stock fits me well, no need to change out. I like the aluminum bedding. I wanted a 24 inch barrel, using solid copper bullets so extra velocity is nice. Shoots sub moa, trigger is decent. Stock is adjustable for lop. The roughtech had everything I wanted for a hunting rifle, at price that made sense. No need to start upgrading.

The black wolf price point will be interesting to see. It's being marketed as a hunting rifle that is more ergonomic. Not a heavy range gun , not a light hunting rifle.
 
Got an SRS with 260Rem and 338LM to replace my TRG 308 but do I miss that TRG 2 stage trigger.
26" barrel SRS is shorter than 20" TRG.
Figure out how to use my TRG bipod on a picatinny; wish there was a TRG to picatinny adapter.
no 338 Lapua so hardly a replacement for the TRG 42
 
Got an SRS with 260Rem and 338LM to replace my TRG 308 but do I miss that TRG 2 stage trigger.
26" barrel SRS is shorter than 20" TRG.
Figure out how to use my TRG bipod on a picatinny; wish there was a TRG to picatinny adapter.
if you sold the TRG, sell the TRG bipod and buy a LRA or two considering what sako accessories go for even used.
 
New TRGs are currently selling for $4K+ (at least in Ab) and unfortunately, and IMO, are not worth that anymore.

Mags and bipods for those are priced stupidly.

Great trigger though.
 
New TRGs are currently selling for $4K+ (at least in Ab) and unfortunately, and IMO, are not worth that anymore.

Mags and bipods for those are priced stupidly.

Great trigger though.

You don't have to use a TRG bipod. I use an Atlas bipod with thier adaptor that mounts similar to the factory bipod. Pics here https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1192342-New-rifle

Magazine prices I don't get, I really don't need extra mags so not a big issue. I'm surprised aftermarket hasn't attempted to make some.

Price wise, it is a bit high but everything that is labeled precision or tactical is. Manufacturers charging more for it and we pay.
 
The TRG's shoot well with just about any factory load you feed in them. The same can not be said for the vast majority of the other 338 Lapua's on the market. It really is a quality no other manufacturer has been able to duplicate and I have tried most of what is available in canada
 
You don't have to use a TRG bipod. I use an Atlas bipod with thier adaptor that mounts similar to the factory bipod. Pics here https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1192342-New-rifle

Magazine prices I don't get, I really don't need extra mags so not a big issue. I'm surprised aftermarket hasn't attempted to make some.

Price wise, it is a bit high but everything that is labeled precision or tactical is. Manufacturers charging more for it and we pay.

A TRG without the bipod is incomplete IMO. It is a great bipod if you learn how to use it, completes the system.

At that price range AI ATs, certain Cadex rifles, PGWs, etc. are all in the ballpark. 10 years ago it was top of the heap but the landscape has changed.
 
Great advice, just don't want to sell it, luv pulling it out of the BACK of the safe to play with the 2 stage trigger. Plus it shares same mag as my CTR.
if you sold the TRG, sell the TRG bipod and buy a LRA or two considering what sako accessories go for even used.
 
+1, like the loose play on the TRG bipod, eyeball the anti cant, level the rifle, load, locked, pew, pew.
A TRG without the bipod is incomplete IMO. It is a great bipod if you learn how to use it, completes the system.

At that price range AI ATs, certain Cadex rifles, PGWs, etc. are all in the ballpark. 10 years ago it was top of the heap but the landscape has changed.

Have you tried the TRG bipod? If not you gonna try it. It replaced my Harris. Cry once.

Read somewhere the TRG is classified as a military rifle in Finland and with that a military tax. The first gen CTR used the TRG mag; Gen 2 CTR uses a non TRG compatible mag that is half the price.
TRG mags are well build, feed flawlessly, like their trigger everyone raves about it; market is too tiny for aftermarket.
You don't have to use a TRG bipod. I use an Atlas bipod with thier adaptor that mounts similar to the factory bipod. Pics here https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1192342-New-rifle

Magazine prices I don't get, I really don't need extra mags so not a big issue. I'm surprised aftermarket hasn't attempted to make some.

Price wise, it is a bit high but everything that is labeled precision or tactical is. Manufacturers charging more for it and we pay.
 
I'm a huge fun of older sako hunting rifles and the TRG models seem very nice for an out of the box PRS rifle. I really wanted a Sako 85 grey wolf until I found out about the ejection issues they have. It's a shame because it had the exact features I wanted in a medium/big game rifle and looked ###y to boot. I will not buy a $2000 rifle that I can't trust to feed and eject reliably though. This rifle would excite me for long range plinking and maybe competition but for the same reason I mentioned, I would never buy one.
 
Would like to try the TRG bipod, probably would have bought one if I didn't have the Atlas bipod already. Happy with the Atlas performance so spending $60 for the adapter made sense.

It is definitely not the coolest rifle on the block. No rails hanging off every direction, quick push button adjustments, machined aluminum powder coated goodness. It's still an accurate rifle , amazing trigger with a stock that's very comfortable.
 
The SRS is a cool looking rifle. Luv how the 26" SRS has shorter OAL than the 20" TRG and CTR.

 
TRG's are for who's lives depend on them shooting accurately, any ammo, in any condition, ALL THE TIME. for that you pay, the grey wolf is a beautiful rifle designed for hunters who do so for enjoyment, meat, fun and whatever and for that privilege the price is lower. There are not many bolt rifles I'd take over a trg when going into the heat of battle, and if there are they are sure to cost as much or more. Comparing apples to oranges when comparing the two.

I am not wondering if the OP meant the Black wolf
 
TRG's are for who's lives depend on them shooting accurately, any ammo, in any condition, ALL THE TIME.

And who are these mythical people who are free to choose TRG and go to war? Yeah we see finish military on the forum all the time and their never ending war there they depend on TRG all the time every day.

Not to make fun of it, but honestly invoking that "go to war" argument is a bit out of place here. It is not even PGW coyote. And none of us here is going to die under hostile fire holding their beloved TRG.

PS
SKS or Mosin are go to war depend on it all the time kind of deal. Sako 85 is not. If you had to make "the shot", which one would you take.
 
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