Trophy Hunting vs Meat/Subsistence Hunting
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My mistake actually... That was tongue in cheek... I just forgot to throw in the token "lol"...
Personally no interest in the trophy part of trophy hunting, but totally interested in the methods. What i mean by that is the trips that trophy hunting encompass seem amazing. I've never gone on a hunting trip of that sorts but its very intriguing. There are so many that i like to try, and for me i'd be just as happy to go and shoot a doe or small male on these trips then a huge buck. I'd prefer to try traveling DYI's but they aren't always possible.
Anyways for me i hunt to get some good meat. I wont hold out for a massive buck, and if my area ever gets more than one tag for whitetails my perfect situation is 2 yearling deer.
Most ducks don't grow horns anyways though so conversations about big game barely apply to me.
Anyways for me i hunt to get some good meat. I wont hold out for a massive buck, and if my area ever gets more than one tag for whitetails my perfect situation is 2 yearling deer.
Most ducks don't grow horns anyways though so conversations about big game barely apply to me.
Superbrad
My mistake actually... That was tongue in cheek... I just forgot to throw in the token "lol"...
Caught the tounge in cheek, but you are correct. I like seeing pics from trail cams either the one that got away or the one that's gonna get it tomorrow.
Our game here is not habitual enough to use them and it is unlawful for us to feed or bait anything here, in the Yukon. Hence we just don't have an application for them here. Caught a couple lionesses trying to get my leopard bait in Zambia though those were some cool pics.
Ardent
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Glad you said most, not never, as I'm still looking for my Horny Duck. One fellow got one in Antarctica, and I hear he passed up thousands of non-Horny Ducks before he got his bull. He baited his subsequent Horny Penguin trophy with the carcass I hear, so there is some debate over the ethics of his kill and whether or not it'll be accepted into the book. Horny Duck, like most horny animals, is not supposed to be the most palatable so perhaps bait was the best use for it.
No doubt that would be outstanding... And trail cam use does not always require bait... I own several...and have only one bait site on 400 plus acres...
What I would do with a trail cam in africa if I had the chance!... I have some that last 4 months on a charge.. To go back and see what goes through the pasture behind my bunkie from may through september is great fun...
You know, the more I read through this thread the more I realise how much I love hunting of any and all kinds... It's just amazing how something can capture this much of my interest in life...
Without throwing you under the bus (yet
Its a hunting forum for discussion of pro hunting topics.
Its not a forum to trash hunting and post what are arguably anti hunting type posts.
We can have that done in other forums such as OT if necessary. Hunting is under alot of pressure from hypocritcial leather wearing burger eating communists.
Hunting should not be under pressure on this forum. This should be a place where people feel they can talk about hunting topics free of ridicule and discussions of ethics and anti hunting type sentiments.
I get that trophy hunting is considered by some on CGN as controversial. Thats fine. How bout have a post about it in OT next time and not on the hunting forum.
If hunters cant go to the hunting forum to escape anti hunting bulls**t, where else is there left to go.
So there you have it.
My bad, didnt know that I had to agree with anything a Trophy hunter says for fear of being called Anti Hunting. I am not anti hunting at all, no matter how these guys try to spin it. I just dont agree with their kind of hunting, and there is nothing wrong with stating your opinion on that as in this case the op asked for it.
If you dont want the opinion then dont ask for it. Am i to understand that CGN is primarily a hunting forum? As thats what i meant when i said that this forum is about more then hunting. I know there are different sections of CGN and if thats what you are referring too then by all means ill stay out of his hunting forum so he can have happy thoughts.
bearkilr
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I think you're getting a little confused. CGN is what's called a web site, which contains discussion forums on various topics which are firearm related. This happens to be the hunting forum of CGN, where we discuss.............. you guessed it, hunting.
Got it now?
This is so true and an aspect I have yet to touch on, when I walk into my trophy room and look around at my "boys" I can relive every moment and detail of each and every hunt and all the neat stuff I saw and did on each hunt. It's just not the same, opening the freezer to garner a fond memory.
I can honestly say my life would be much less without having done the hunting I have so far and that which I still plan to do. It is truly part of that which defines me and who I am and is part of my very soul, as such it is not something I can explain or justify to another who doesn't feel this same thing. My brothers have become evident in this thread, as have those who do not feel this way. I have not, nor will I ever critisize the table hunter, but I feel sorry that he will never feel what I feel towards hunting and my quarry.
Hunting as I do it reaches a depth within me that I can never adequately express, the writer quoted earlier equated it with a religious experience and I fully comprehend and appreciate his meaning. The kill is an integral part of this whole experience, but it and it alone doesn't make a hunt. There are those out there who pen shoot in Texas and SA and call themselves hunters however they are merely collectors of heads and I feel sorry for them too. They will never experience what I have either.
Douglas
I think you're getting a little confused. CGN is what's called a web site, which contains discussion forums on various topics which are firearm related. This happens to be the hunting forum of CGN, where we discuss.............. you guessed it, hunting.
Got it now?
Well the cgn is a forum for pro gun people that has many subforums, that's how I was looking at it, when I check new posts I get posts from many different forums, that how I came across this thread, not cause I specifically was in the hunting forum as I wasn't and rarly come here for obvious reasons. This thread got derailed , I should have kept my opinions to myself. Hardcore hunters should have their outlet as USP said. So delete all my posts and anything related and let the conversation continue.
Ardent
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Where you messed up is you spewed slanderous BS about hunting, in a hunting forum, far beyond the opinion that was asked of you. In that process it became extremely evident you went on in emotion, not reason, with little understanding of the subject literally attacking hunters you don't agree with. This is why you're being compared to an anti. You then went on to insult those who don't agree with your viewpoints. As I suggested earlier, and many others here are suggesting, it seems you're in the wrong forum; this is the Hunting one. We don't mind one bit trophy hunting isn't your type of hunting, we do take exception to being ignorantly labeled blood thirsty, kill for thrill rejects when nothing could be further from the case. Please feel free to add me to your ignore list, and we thought you were done with this thread?
Do you own a handgun gunguy? There is no possible good use for such a device, they are purely designed for hurting people, and have no place in Canada.
Recognize yourself?With all due repect doug... My goal in life (among others) is to get to your level of quarry predator... I make good money... But will never make enough based on other choices I have made... I can live with that... my only hope is to truly target the species I want based on the trophy, meat and above all, experience... Right now cape buffalo tops my list...
My advice to you is to realize that those who criticize don't have the funds or capacity to imagine what could be... They will never understand...
One other thing that is probably mentioned but if not should be is the industry (read conservation ) that trophy hunters provide. You can get emotionally all pissy about shooting elephants ( mostly a product of good propaganda any who) but you have to recognize that not only the trophy fees themselves, but the legitimate value put on the animals simply because they are a trophy. This value protects them from poaching, or at least that's how i understand it.
Ardent
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I have a friend who manages a conservancy with a lot of Cape Buffalo, he management hunts over-mature bulls from time to time to weed them out of the gene pool and let the fresh genetics in to breed. These are good bulls, you won't take a 40"+ but old old hard bossed 36" is very doable, which in Cape Buffalo terms is a very respectable animal today. If you're interested in making a plan it can be done for a lot less than you think, for as little as a guy on an average job can scrimp together in savings in a single year. Received your PM, all good, sorry short on time to reply and want to waste it arguing in this thread.
I have a friend who manages a conservancy with a lot of Cape Buffalo, he management hunts over-mature bulls from time to time to weed them out of the gene pool and let the fresh genetics in to breed. These are good bulls, you won't take a 40"+ but old old hard bossed 36" is very doable, which in Cape Buffalo terms is a very respectable animal today. If you're interested in making a plan it can be done for a lot less than you think, for as little as a guy on an average job can scrimp together in savings in a single year. Received your PM, all good, sorry short on time to reply and want to waste it arguing in this thread.
Thank you ardent... Look forward to discussing this in the future... You can look through my posts on this type of topic and you will always see a common theme.. Cape buffalo... It haunts me... To go to africa and go ground to ground with one is my dream...
My advice to you is to realize that those who criticize don't have the funds or capacity to imagine what could be... They will never understand...[/QUOTE]
You know Superbrad, I am aware that I have been blessed with a successful business and LOTS of disposable income, finally. But I've had these dreams since my teenage years and I cannot fathom the closed mindedness of some. I never in my wildest dreams envisioned that I would ever have the where-with-all to do what I've done later in life when I was working for $3.10 / hr at Canadian Linen in Calgary. I've tried to share some of this, in this forum with others of the same ilk, but apparently I am naive. Even when I had nothing, I aspired to hunt the way I now hunt, and I never faulted a more experienced hunter, hell I was all ears and couldn't get enough stories.
My point being that I'm not sure financial constraints are necessarily behind these attitudes or capacities to imagine. They are just different than I, and I allow for that, some guys are car guys, some guys are avid fishermen, I am a hunter and rabid gunnut.
I am not the least offended by GunGuy 34, I allow that he is entitled to his level of hunting and his opinion of trophy hunters. He will not be swayed by anything I or you say, nor will I by his comments. Like I said, I feel sorry for him as he is missing so much of the hunting experience, but so be it.
Hey, at least he's out there with a rifle doing what man was designed to do and isn't an anti, so I count him as a brother in arms, who disagree on some of the finer points of the sport.
You know Superbrad, I am aware that I have been blessed with a successful business and LOTS of disposable income, finally. But I've had these dreams since my teenage years and I cannot fathom the closed mindedness of some. I never in my wildest dreams envisioned that I would ever have the where-with-all to do what I've done later in life when I was working for $3.10 / hr at Canadian Linen in Calgary. I've tried to share some of this, in this forum with others of the same ilk, but apparently I am naive. Even when I had nothing, I aspired to hunt the way I now hunt, and I never faulted a more experienced hunter, hell I was all ears and couldn't get enough stories.
My point being that I'm not sure financial constraints are necessarily behind these attitudes or capacities to imagine. They are just different than I, and I allow for that, some guys are car guys, some guys are avid fishermen, I am a hunter and rabid gunnut.
I am not the least offended by GunGuy 34, I allow that he is entitled to his level of hunting and his opinion of trophy hunters. He will not be swayed by anything I or you say, nor will I by his comments. Like I said, I feel sorry for him as he is missing so much of the hunting experience, but so be it.
Hey, at least he's out there with a rifle doing what man was designed to do and isn't an anti, so I count him as a brother in arms, who disagree on some of the finer points of the sport.
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We'll personally I'm a meat eater, my ancestors didn't spend a million years getting to the top of the food chain just to eat frozen TV tofu dinners.......that being said I would and have killed animals I have no intention of eating......coyote,raccoon, groundhog...
Now big game hunting for Wildabeast,elephants,cape buffalo,etc.....ya I can only dream....wonder how they taste? Guess a lot of that meat goes to the guides/camp/local villages? Can you import it to Canada?
Now big game hunting for Wildabeast,elephants,cape buffalo,etc.....ya I can only dream....wonder how they taste? Guess a lot of that meat goes to the guides/camp/local villages? Can you import it to Canada?
