Trying to decide between Aimpoint and Eotech
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I recommend you buy an SVT40, Mosin sniper rifle and a Norinco M305. In a few years time you will get your money back. Even the humble SKS is a good bet.
Yes, I've run the real Aimpoint. It is great. I like the turn knob for brightness control.
I have yet to conk out the fake. Great value for $35...
Yes, I've run the real Aimpoint. It is great. I like the turn knob for brightness control.
I have yet to conk out the fake. Great value for $35...
Shooter1of38
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
The rifles you mention and the values you attach to them are inflated. Fools pay those prices for such junk.
So you have an aimpoint "just in case" but you don't train or practice for such events?
I have to ask why you would need a fake for zero risk bench style plinking if you already have the real version?
What did you run your real and fake optics on and what kind of round count?
Tdc
Or people want a quality sight on their quality ar15, tavor, ect
And not everybody here just shoots paper at the range
Yeah, we ####ing vaporize it to another dimension then do some push-ups on our rifles.
Now that would be just a wee bit stupider than buying them in the first place but you know that. Of course we both know that the fakes wont take any form of real World abuse but since my AR won't see anything of the real world due to our laws it is moot. This tongue in cheek exercise will see if they work at all and if so for how long on a range toy.
Oh and btw my days of dropping AR's ended a long time ago
Now that would be just a wee bit stupider than buying them in the first place but you know that. Of course we both know that the fakes wont take any form of real World abuse but since my AR won't see anything of the real world due to our laws it is moot. This tongue in cheek exercise will see if they work at all and if so for how long on a range toy.
Oh and btw my days of dropping AR's ended a long time ago
Are you saying there's no possibility of ever dropping your rifle? Are floods not a possibility where you live? Do you only shoot indoors? Try a box drill with the optic and see if it tracks properly.
The point here is that fakes/copies are produced for posers who wish to fool others(and themselves) into believing they have a higher quality product than they really do. By that definition a copy must be lower quality as a copy is always a lower cost. There's nothing to test, the fakes are Sh!t.
Tdc
Obviously I have not been clear; I am aware the copies (fakes) are sub standard but I'm doing this for a bit of fun. I'm not trying to pose or fool anyone into believing I have real optics when, in fact, I do not. My post was intended to be light hearted. My reference to dropping AR's should have been re-written to 'intentionally dropping' ie as part of a test.
Lastly, does that sand in your panties make you itch ?
bearkilr
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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I think the point is that most of the money which goes into the production of a fake or clone is spent in making it look like the genuine model. You can get a much better optic for the same price as a fake. I'd choose a Bushnell TRS-25 over a fake Aimpoint any day of the week.
Fakes are for posers, nothing else.
I like the Aimpoint H1 better than the Eotech I've had, especially after the batteries leaked and ruined it. While my red dots don't see combat, they do see a lot of ATV's, snowmobiles and general rough use in "hostile" wilderness, which probably equates to rougher conditions than your average military usage. Aimpoints are tough, no doubt about it.
Fakes are for posers, nothing else.
I like the Aimpoint H1 better than the Eotech I've had, especially after the batteries leaked and ruined it. While my red dots don't see combat, they do see a lot of ATV's, snowmobiles and general rough use in "hostile" wilderness, which probably equates to rougher conditions than your average military usage. Aimpoints are tough, no doubt about it.
Problem is the fake don't work nearly as well as the real ones. I have a fake eotech and a fake aimpoint T1 and both are junk, the eotech has terrible glass nowhere near as clear as my real XPS2-2 and the adjusters for zeroing are also crap and don't have enough range to zero it on my 10/22. The fakepoint is better but the electronics are sketchy and if I put it on my AR the dot comes and goes with each shot then I have to wiggle the illum knob to get it to come back on.
I will never buy a fake anything again as it is a complete waste of money and time.
They are both going to be put on my 12ga and/or my 338 Lapua just to see if I can completely destroy them then I'm going to put them out at 200yds and finish the job with the 338.
Where is the fun and enjoyment in running gear that doesn't work? The only reason to "test" such junk is because you don't believe it is such poor quality, yet you admit to knowing the fakes are in fact junk. If you're going to test these optics then a drop test, a freeze test and a box test are basic and necessary. Knowing that such tests will likely kill the optics, the test is over before it begins.
The bold is the answer for those who are not trying to convince others they have a real optic while running a fake.
As for our "buy a fake and a real to fool people at the range" guy, he obviously is too busy "investing" in firearms and accessories to respond.
TDC
Test will be:
Brightness - can it be viewed under various lighting conditions
Controls - do they work and can they be repeated
POI / hold zero - how much if any
Recoil - start with a .223 and if it works then maybe use on a .30 cal
To add interest I'll include in the write up a real Aimpoint Pro
In my view only a moron with too much money will intentionally drop, run over etc optics or firearms that they have paid for with their own money. Read my many reviews here on CGN; all well-received without subject optics or firearms being torture tested.
Brightness - can it be viewed under various lighting conditions
Controls - do they work and can they be repeated
POI / hold zero - how much if any
Recoil - start with a .223 and if it works then maybe use on a .30 cal
To add interest I'll include in the write up a real Aimpoint Pro
In my view only a moron with too much money will intentionally drop, run over etc optics or firearms that they have paid for with their own money. Read my many reviews here on CGN; all well-received without subject optics or firearms being torture tested.
No offense but your reviews are targeting the enthusiast market, not the serious user. I don't really care what gentle infrequent use at the range offers as far as "test results". I don't need to drop my Aimpoint to know it works, someone else already tested it. Knockoffs/fakes/copies/clones are intended for posers and posers only.
TDC
We're not morons, we're using them the way they were designed to be used, like tools.
Is it possible that the rifles and optics you've reviewed weren't intented to be used in the same way we use ARs (on those that'd we'd use RDS on them), meaning other than bench / FT / precision rigs in clean/dry environments?
