Type-81 pictures, range reports, and modifications thread

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but i like black paint. tell us more about the mount.
 
but i like black paint. tell us more about the mount.

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Appears to be a generic AK side rail you can buy from a lot of places. Not sure how it's attached though, looks like the rivet holes would get in the way of the mag well or magazine release with it mounted that far forward.

It reminds me of the RS Regulate setup I saw someone post on another site.

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Any idea which RS Regulate people are buying? What gives the best height and fit?
Most are running the 303M (full length lower) over the 302M (picture, rear biased). There are a bunch of upper optic mount options but the AKR 1913 is the biggest pic rail that allows for the most versatility. The challenge is finding the base plate and lower rails. If anyone has a lead on an RS 303M or CSA VZ-58 side mount please post up or DM me.
 
Anyone remove (grind) the small raised lips on the TI picatinny rail base? I think that if I do that it will center on the rifle better but I am worried that it might prevent it from coming tight.
 
Did you make the front furniture yourself? Did you have to knock out the 3 gas block rivets to replace the top handgyard wood? Did you have to cut the reciever at all to fit the bakelite grip? Thanks

Ya I made it myself I might make another one . Ya I centrepunched the inside of the rivets then drilled them out and replaced them with m2 hex round head nut and bolt,
The grip I just shaped the top of the grip to fit inside the t81 slots
 
Ya I made it myself I might make another one . Ya I centrepunched the inside of the rivets then drilled them out and replaced them with m2 hex round head nut and bolt,
The grip I just shaped the top of the grip to fit inside the t81 slots

Where did you get the x39 bakelite mags? Did you have to find an importer?
 
Most are running the 303M (full length lower) over the 302M (picture, rear biased). There are a bunch of upper optic mount options but the AKR 1913 is the biggest pic rail that allows for the most versatility. The challenge is finding the base plate and lower rails. If anyone has a lead on an RS 303M or CSA VZ-58 side mount please post up or DM me.

The CSA side mounts don't line up with the holes for the OR mounts.
 
Anyone remove (grind) the small raised lips on the TI picatinny rail base? I think that if I do that it will center on the rifle better but I am worried that it might prevent it from coming tight.

So to answer my own question. I went ahead and removed the proud lips on the rail base and it drastically improved the rail position with no effect on the ability to clamp the rail on. I also shimmed the rail base 6 thou at the rear pin to compensate for the 1.5 mm over 40cm right deviation in the barrel to receiver makeup. I believe that the rail now is close enough for the expected accuracy of the rifle.
I have not been able to test yet, but curious if the mount will retain zero after removing and replacing with the QD. If anyone else has tested it your feedback would be interesting to hear.

I mounted a crossfire 2 1-4 lvpo and had no issues with an initial test of 20 rounds. It pretty much covers the length of the chamber. I haven't had any brass strikes on the scope itself just yet but the scope base which is on the front lug is taking the beating. I put a vortex flip up cap on the objective end as it is fairly deep and covers about an inch at the front of the scope, leaving roughly another inch of exposed tube between it and the front base. If it looks as though it will get beat up after future tests I will wrap it with rubber tape.
 
So to answer my own question. I went ahead and removed the proud lips on the rail base and it drastically improved the rail position with no effect on the ability to clamp the rail on. I also shimmed the rail base 6 thou at the rear pin to compensate for the 1.5 mm over 40cm right deviation in the barrel to receiver makeup.

the t81 pic mount not designed for AK or VZ rails so with those removed i wonder if they fit now? im guessin not.
 
the t81 pic mount not designed for AK or VZ rails so with those removed i wonder if they fit now? im guessin not.

I don't have any other rails to test but on gnutzguy's video he mentioned that the mount base rail was thicker on the the TI version. It's possible that it might work with those removed. It's almost as though the base was designed for a different rail system that had reliefs machined into it for those to sit in. I don't by that it's intentionally designed to sit canted to the left. I am struggling to find any reason why that would be an advantage in any scenario.
 
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