Unfriendly highway signs in B.C.
- Thread starter snowhunter
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Shooting 30 times or more of the limit of moose clearly shows that these signs aong the highways against hunters/poachers do not work at intended, and should therefore be removed, because they only create a negative image of us hunters who respect and follow the law, as well as prevent new hunters from getting into this wonderful outdoor activity.
I believe that highway signs should be limited to inform about driving conditions and regulations, an not specificly attack certain groups, like hunters, who already reads and obey the hunting regulations, before going on a hunt.
Poachers who are armed criminals, ignore these signs anyway, and for the highway department to flash signs asking the general puplic to report and observe these armed criminals are therefore out of their mind, by asking the general puplic to endanger themself by going in potential harms way, by "observing" an armed criminal, while that criminal is doing his crime. What next ? "Observe" and report armed drug dealer ? "Observer" and report armed bank robbers ? etc
I believe that highway signs should be limited to inform about driving conditions and regulations, an not specificly attack certain groups, like hunters, who already reads and obey the hunting regulations, before going on a hunt.
Poachers who are armed criminals, ignore these signs anyway, and for the highway department to flash signs asking the general puplic to report and observe these armed criminals are therefore out of their mind, by asking the general puplic to endanger themself by going in potential harms way, by "observing" an armed criminal, while that criminal is doing his crime. What next ? "Observe" and report armed drug dealer ? "Observer" and report armed bank robbers ? etc
I think it's a citizens duty to get involved to prevent/report crime.
There is far too much of this "I didn't see anything" apathy these days.
Yes, if I saw a bank robber, I'd be calling the police. Yes, if I saw someone being attacked, I'd try to stop it.
SOme people will just stand meekly by and watch a woman get dragged off to be raped, or watch a senior citizen get mugged. And yes, there are people that, when encountering someone poaching, will be too scared for their own safety to go to the effort of calling the CO's.
I'm not one of those people, but I guess you are.
uh,yeah. calling in suspicious activity is common and responsible for stopping/catching plenty of criminals. i'm still not sure why your offended at a sign directed at poachers and i definately wouldn't write letters complaining about them. they have nothing to do with legit hunters/shooters, by writting in about them it would mislead the public into thinking hunters aren't concerned about poaching
OK, how many poacher do you know of ?
How many drunk drivers do you know of ?
How many drug dealer/user do you know ?
Witout doubt, the numbers of drunk drivers, drug dealer/users far outnumber poacher, as well as costing our society far more money and greif.
However, you will never see any highway signs flashing, and requesting the general public in gettiing into action to report drug dealers
To the British Columbia Highway Department, any person with a gun is a moron that should be reported. The only time I have experienced anyone calling RCMP/CO for "illegal" activity and "poaching" were false, and were only directed to harass legal and licensed hunters.
How many drunk drivers do you know of ?
How many drug dealer/user do you know ?
Witout doubt, the numbers of drunk drivers, drug dealer/users far outnumber poacher, as well as costing our society far more money and greif.
However, you will never see any highway signs flashing, and requesting the general public in gettiing into action to report drug dealers
To the British Columbia Highway Department, any person with a gun is a moron that should be reported. The only time I have experienced anyone calling RCMP/CO for "illegal" activity and "poaching" were false, and were only directed to harass legal and licensed hunters.
There are several that have been caught/charged around our area recenly, including one that was basiclaly operating a butcher shop in his basement.
The CO's are in regular contact without our club members, and often ask for assistance in keeping our eyes and ears alert for poaching activity. A few years ago, Several of our club members observed suspected poachers and attempted to blockade the road until the RCMP or CO could arrive, but the poacher manage d to sneak past. Members of our club keep the local CO's informed the best we can, at every opportunity.
How many drunk drivers do you know of ?
How many drug dealer/user do you know ?
Witout doubt, the numbers of drunk drivers, drug dealer/users far outnumber poacher, as well as costing our society far more money and greif.
However, you will never see any highway signs flashing, and requesting the general public in gettiing into action to report drug dealers
I'm sure there are quite a few drunks and dealers, but that is a RCMP mater, not MOE or CO. If the RCMP wanted to post signs that said "report drunks" I am fine with that.
I keep saying this, but you are either lacking in comprehension skills, or are deliberatly being obtuse. THE BC HIGHWAYS DEPT HAS NOTHING TO DO WIHT THE MESSAGES BEING DISPLAYED ON THE FLASHING SIGNS OR THE REGULAR SIGNS. BC HIGHWAYS HAS NO POLICY REGARDING POACHERS.
The MOE and the CO service as well as BCWF and many F&G clubs throughout the province have installed these signs and requested that highways flash the message on thier signs. These signs are ENCOURAGED by hunters, so the general public knows WHO TO CALL.
Yeah, lets make policy because "snowhunter" from CGN has only had false reports.
NEWSFLASH: Most calls to police end up getting settled with some conversation, observation and discussion, rather than dramatic arrests.
i haven't seen too many thugs slingin crack on the side of the highway, but i have seen similar billboards in cities...a more appropriate place where the dealers are more likely to be found.
maybe you should see the signs as a reminder to seasoned hunters to keep an eye out for that sort of activity insead of feeling it's aimed at you.
it's not anti-hunting, it's anti-poaching. better signs like this that more restrictions don't you think?
Is'nt blocking a public road vigilantism ? One armed group try stop another armed person/group from passing ? Sounds dangerous for all involved. If this continues in the Pemberton are, somebody will be shot one day.
Sounds like another good reasons for people not becomming new hunters.
Sounds like another good reasons for people not becomming new hunters.
are you saying you think the signs are encouraging people to make a citizens arrest or something? if so, that's not at all what they mean.
To get back to my original question: Why is there such an concern for the behavior of hunters in British Columbia that there are signs reminding the hunters from not to shoot within 400 meters of highways, as well as there appears to so many poachers in British Columbia, that it is nesessary to have flasihing signs on the highways, asking the general public to "Observe" and turn in these armed criminals ?
Or is it all mostly a deliberate negative stereo typing of the hunters from some anti's with acces to these signs ?
Or is it all mostly a deliberate negative stereo typing of the hunters from some anti's with acces to these signs ?
Last time I checked they werent flashing. Alberta has similar signs up all over the province (they even gave free stuff out when the signs went up).
Its encouragement for those who see someone breaking the law.
Why do police cars have 9-1-1 on them. Is that not to encrouagement for people to call the police?
- Location
- Lakes District BC
no silly its so the rcmp dont forget there phone number geesh
actualy that was some humor put into a stupid azzed thread started by a guy with no life and has nothing better to ##### about than a dam sign on the highway, whats next the dam smokey the bear signs and only YOU can prevent wildfires? that must be against campers, dam now I cant camp.....oh dam how about those signs againt weeds on yer boat trailer....OH dam now I cant fish , thanks snow for ruining my life you jackazz!
Vigilantism? Maybe... Noone had a noose. .
In farm country, it's not unheard of for a tractor towing flatbed of round bales, to lose power when crossing a road.
You should let loose of fantasy- Most poachers are observed from a distance, and they are called in, just like when some normal citizen reports a crime and calls police. Your fantasy of poachers gunning down observers is nothing more than a vivid imagination.
I know of one CO who disappeared while "observing" a poacher. Was'nt it in New Brunswick that poachers beat up unarmed CO's a number of years ago ? There is also a good reasons for that British Columbia CO's were armed with handguns and provided a bullet proof west.
rollingrock
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Port Moody, BC
These signs clearly tell you that BC is the home of hunters. Welcome to BC, but don't screw around.
There seems to be only one, maybe two people that interpret anything negative from the posted signs and no matter how much EVERYONE else on this board points out that they are simply wrong in that regard, they cling to their incorrect interpretation oblivious to the logic presented. I do find humour in the analogies drawn in an attempt to "make us see the light". I can only assume that your secret decoder ring has told you that the B.C. Highways Dept. has a hidden anti-hunting agenda. Go find a nice hard wall and bang your head on it for a while as your insistance that these signs are negative messages to the public warrants it.
i'll bet he was doing more than 'observing',more like investigating, which that sign is not telling you to do.
do neighbourhood watch signs piss you off too?
Hmm...What could that reason be?
Could it be that they CONFRONT poachers, something that the RAPP program specifically advise you NOT to do?
One last time- The BCWF and F&G clubs all over the province support this signage. These are PRO HUNTING groups.
