UPDATE: Rossi Ranch Hand Mares Leg

CGN'ers and mares leg afficianados,
There has been some intrest in this thread about a holster for the mares les that would have a hook for the saddle ring and some form of retention for the rest of the piece. As well some have contacted me about leather, single point slings for the same fire arm. After see Senior McQueen with McCoy, I think I can make something similar. And for those who were asking about a sling, no problem!! I will make some drawings and post them later, but any and all who have an intrest in one of these ideas can PM me.
Cheers,
spacesaver
 
I don't get the whole mare's leg thing, however, to each their own. It'd have far more appeal to me with a full rear stock and a 10" barrel.
 
I don't get the whole mare's leg thing, however, to each their own.
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Well, it would serve the same sort of use that a pistol would if it were unrestricted. A role currently only filled by pistol grip shotguns.

It would allow for you to carry a rifle on your person without having to have it slide around your shoulder on a sling. ANd still have enough horsepower to stop predators, hunt game, and generally put holes in things you feel might need a hole.

I'd be less interested if we could carry pistols, but we can't. This rifle fills the same sort of role.
 
2bad4u2 said:
I don't get the whole mare's leg thing, however, to each their own. It'd have far more appeal to me with a full rear stock and a 10" barrel.
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I've got an extra 1892 buttstock allready so mine could be configured as a full stock 12 incher in less then a minute if I find the mare's leg configuration awkward with heavy loads....

Some sort of hand strap up front might be handy as well to assist with control of the push pull technique and another good idea is a loop at the rear of the stock that you could attach a single point sling to so that you could push the gun forward against the tension of the strap.....

It's going to be fun figuring out how to best shoot these guns.

I like the way Wally is thinking as well with a separate butt extension that could dovetail onto the stubby stock to allow for a quick in the field transition between short and shoulder ready.
 
RevolverRodger said:
Let's all fast forward to the end of march now !
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thats exactly what I was thinking!


Can-down said:
I like the way Wally is thinking as well with a separate butt extension that could dovetail onto the stubby stock to allow for a quick in the field transition between short and shoulder ready.
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yea I like that idea very much as well, and look forward to seeing what he comes up with!

Slinky Pickle said:
http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20100923/LOCAL03/309239976/1002/LOCAL
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hmmm but what it sounds like is that taurus/rossi have purchased the rights to manufacture this gun, and if the agreement does not state that it is to be designed and manufactured for him and him alone, then I think he is out of luck. It looks like he may have a weak case.....
 
H Wally said:
At worst they'll lose their mares leg market in the states. They'll probably settle with him to save on lawyer fees... or if his case is weak, let him burn himself out in the courts.

Regardless, I don't see it stopping the Mares Leg here.
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If there is no US market to sell to they will discontinue it for sure.
 
Republic of Alberta said:
Hey what ever happened to those short bbl'd pistol grip shotguns???

Did they end up restricted???

Has this question been asked 1000 times??
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It has, and the answer is still somewhat up in the air. The black letter law hasn't changed. However, in the case of the Dlask 6.5 inch (or was it 8.5 inch) pistol gripped shotguns, the RCMP interpreted this conversion to have resulted in a firearm designed or altered to be fired with the action of one hand, and therefore it met the definition of a handgun.

AFAIK, this ruling only affects the Dlask and Blueline models. The 8.5 inch Dominion Arms guns were shipped with a regular stock and an accessory pistol grip, and seem not to be affected.
 
Anyone ever tried shooting a mare's leg? They are literally near useless.
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Many claim to get decent accuracy. Why would a 44 mag handgun be perfectly useable but a slightly larger rifle be useless? Lots of people manage to hunt with 12 inch or 15 inch contender pistols - they can't be horribly inaccurate.

Perahps it's just a matter of technique.
 
It's not that the gun is inaccurate but that it is not designed like a pistol to be fired easily off hand un supported.....

For the record I think it will be like a PGO shotgun definitely not useless but requiring some technique to master.

This gun should serve well as a lightweight trail gun with decent capacity and punch and if the short configuration proves to difficult for some to comfortably hit with then the full stock option is there as well.

Besides trail use it will also be a fun gun at the range or plinking in the bush!

Who knows maybe the Cowboy shooters will come up with a Josh Randal stage.....
 
Foxer said:
Many claim to get decent accuracy. Why would a 44 mag handgun be perfectly useable but a slightly larger rifle be useless? Lots of people manage to hunt with 12 inch or 15 inch contender pistols - they can't be horribly inaccurate.

Perahps it's just a matter of technique.
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Just try holding out a .30-30 at arm's length, see the angle your wrist is at, and contemplate aiming and shooting like that... Candown nailed it, that stock design was just never designed to be shot as a pistol. The TC's and big revolvers are designed to be shot as pistols, and have a drastically different grip design as such. Mare's legs are really just 'neat toys' and for that purpose, I have nothing against them. But they leave a lot to be desired as a gun that may anticipate real use...
 
Handguns are designed to be shot without a stock, that is why they are short and have a pistol handle on them. Mares Legs are just cut down lever rifles with a leftover stock that was designed for shoulder fire.

I think it will be virtually impossible to accurately shoot this gun one handed. I think that with some practice a guy could put a well placed bullet (2 handed) into a deer with it, but I sure wouldn't feel comfortable about relying on a Mares Leg for any sort of defense situation. I'd much rather have a revolver or better, a full stock.

But as I said before, it's the closest thing we have to handgun hunting in Canada at this point, so if someone is interested in handgun hunting, this might work okay.
:)
 
Ardent said:
Just try holding out a .30-30 at arm's length, see the angle your wrist is at, and contemplate aiming and shooting like that... Candown nailed it, that stock design was just never designed to be shot as a pistol. The TC's and big revolvers are designed to be shot as pistols, and have a drastically different grip design as such. Mare's legs are really just 'neat toys' and for that purpose, I have nothing against them. But they leave a lot to be desired as a gun that may anticipate real use...
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who says we all plan to shoot it one handed?

I plan to shoot two handed (although I will be trying one handed for fun), but for legitimate use when a 1200 pound grizzly is running at me... I think I will use two hands :p

I do think it was designed to be shot with two hands, but it is the compact and relatively light weight nature of the rifle while being non-restricted that is pulling me in. This rifle perfectly fits my needs for a bush defense gun, it has been said that it can hit targets greater than 100 yards standing, it can pack the punch required, it is small and fairly light, and it is a kick a$$ conversation piece and novelty gun.

there are vids of folks shooting it one handed..

see 5:30 for one handed shooting.

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As far as accuracy.

I had a Ruger 357 single action that I could not hit a stationary clay pigeon with at 20 yards. Seriously 6 shots and not hit anything.... yet I can easily hit flying clays with a pistol griped shotgun (shooting with 2 hands) at 30 yards. Go figure.

I would guess I could hit better with this thing than a some (most) handguns.
 
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