UPDATE: Rossi Ranch Hand Mares Leg

driller212 said:
lol yes that thingamajig is a safety. most of us I think are going to remove it though, it kinda ruins the nostalgia.
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that safety thingamajig may not be there ....... the puma / rossi rifles in the states had them , the puma / rossi rifles in canada that i have seen don't have them ( including mine ) .

who knows which direction the new taurus / rossi rifles will take .
 
Doesn't matter either way - there's an aftermarket replacement for the safety thingamagiggy. There's even an aftermarket ghost ring peep you can get for it.
 
yup. dont need to have this discussion again haha.

btw foxer I have read on the interwebs that the ghost ring isnt a very good sight set up with the ranch hand, but I guess you can decide that for yourself!
 
btw foxer I have read on the interwebs that the ghost ring isnt a very good sight set up with the ranch hand, but I guess you can decide that for yourself!
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Might be very true. I haven't the foggiest - I just know you can get one :) It basically just goes in the hole the safety switch came out of and mounts tight.

Thinking about it, i would guess that sight set ups that suit pistols would likely be the right choice for this type of rifle. I haven't spent a lot of time shooting pistols tho, so maybe someone else can pipe up :)

I was actually planning on starting off with a hi viz replacement 'buckhorn' fibre optic sight and a fibre optic front bead. It'd still keep the same general 'look' but it's a lot easier to adjust the aim (fully adjustable for windage and elevation) and would be better in low light (like coming out of the tent at night with a flashlight if I think a bear might be around.)

Maybe some other folk have some ideas as to what the best set up might be.
 
Thanks guys. I saw a site selling a 'replacement button' which is what got me wondering. Is the safety kind of sloppy or difficult to use, or is it more of just a 'nostalgia' reason behind removing/replacing it? I have a very nice High Power that I tore its' mag safety out of- day two- because it was just gawd awful in the performance/design department- but even as against mag safeties as I am I probably would've left it well enough alone if it hadn't stunk so bad. Other than that I've never messed with safeties.
As for the Rossi, the first thing I'll do is change out the lever... I could care less about the 'proper' look for the gun, I just want something small, legal, and funcional. If the safety isn't a hinderence, perhaps it'll be left alone. Is it a pushbutton, or twisty thing... how's it function?
Experiences/insight?
 
I had a 16" '92 with the same bolt mounted firing pin safety. I had a real cheap way of taking it out of play.

With the safety set to the "safe" position, IE, white dot showing, I just gave white safety dot a quick scrub with some degreaser and then put a TINY glob of JB weld on top of the white dot. Then I just clicked it over to "fire" and left it there. After you wipe up any excess JB Weld, you can count on not forgetting to take off your second safety when you need the gun to shoot.

It never moved. But because there is some oil trapped in the little bearing that sits in the coloured dots, its not permanent. A tap with a hammer and punch breaks the JB weld and lets you use the safety again if you chose. I did the same thing with a pistol that had a tendency to apply the safety after a few shots and it worked like a charm.
 
You state "second safety"

Are you talking about your finger as the first, or does this gun actually have two different safeties on it??
 
The half #### notch is the only safety on the originals. If you wanted to carry it with a round in the chamber you would decock it to the half #### notch.

Either that, or go hammer down on an empty chamber.

Rossi added the firing pin safety to their modern version of the gun and I dont know of anyone ever publicly stating that they liked it.
 
Thanks guys.
I see no reason to chamber a round prematurely in a rifle that holds six down the tube + is so quick to load anyways. I follow the same policy with all my firearms in fact, if there's a round chambered, it means I'm fully intending to make some noise in the immediate future. Otherwise it comes quietly out the back as soon as the opportunity passes. One exception is if I'm laying above a squirrel patch, where they come and go rapidly and I'm not even moving around- that'd be about the only time I click the safety on and actually take no further steps. Most of us are not exactly under attack at present (except from perhaps the rcmp and wendy) so it just seems like the right way to me. My gun fightin days are long over, and it ticks me off when I see hunters (just for one example) chamber a round as soon as they step off the porch. You see this s**t happen at some ranges too. Perhaps I'm just not cool. [/safety rant off].
Hopefully this thingamabobber they've put on there won't be too ugly. Seems wholly unnecessary. (except to lawyers)
 
Depends on how you're hunting CanuckGunny - just like you state there are times when it's appropriate and times when it's not.

For this gun, i could see people if they felt there were bear in the area deciding to keep one in the chamber and use the half #### safety.

I don't know if the gun can be cycled with the safety on, but if it can that's a nice little bit of extra protection when you're unloading the gun and the half #### really doesn't do anything. If that's the case, I can see people turning on the safety, cycling out the ammo from the mag, and then turning it off. Just a little extra security.
 
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I have had to defend myself in the Bush and the last thing I want is to have to remember to take off the safety.
My understanding is on dangerous game rifles they do not put a safety on the rifles.
For myself it is much safer to carry the rifle without a round in the chamber, with the lever action it is just as fast to cycle the action as it is to disengage the safety
Besides myself I never trust a safety so I just never use it.
The only exception is with the Lee Enfield which I will carry half cocked but then again Lee Enfield safety is bulletproof.
 
Foxer said:
Depends on how you're hunting CanuckGunny - just like you state there are times when it's appropriate and times when it's not.

For this gun, i could see people if they felt there were bear in the area deciding to keep one in the chamber and use the half #### safety.

I don't know if the gun can be cycled with the safety on, but if it can that's a nice little bit of extra protection when you're unloading the gun and the half #### really doesn't do anything. If that's the case, I can see people turning on the safety, cycling out the ammo from the mag, and then turning it off. Just a little extra security.
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Let's say you're in bear country... What's faster/more likely to hang you up in a high stress situation though: racking one in, or fiddling with a safety so small I can't seem to see it in the photo's available?
I can dig the argument for emptying the tube I guess.
One thing I've noticed about some of the vids on youtube, there does seem to be several guys having trouble loading. I suspect they are typical youtube morons who don't cycle the action completely. I also think it has part to do with that ugly oversized loop. Just something i've noticed....

edit: carverk kinda beat to part of this...
 
yea carrying this in the bush it would take just one branch to #### and fire the gun accidentally and then you may lose some pieces of your foot and leg...

had some idiot buddies of mine have that happen minus the missing pieces of flesh.

For me at least, I will not have a round in the chamber unless I put a snap strap on my holster that holds the hammer in the half #### position.

just my 2 c
 
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