URGENT - Safety issue - CCI Standard Velocity 22 LR Ammo

4star60 said:
Can't see lot numbers on my 100 round plastic cases,. Besides which I've added bulkk to fill in used so have no idea what cci I have
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If you think you possibly have some of the miscreant ammo, make sure you wear proper safety equipment, especially safety glasses, and keep your hands away from the magazine if your rifle has one.

I have a friend who has a nasty habit of purchasing every odd box of 22lr he can find at gun shows, new, old, and part boxes, manufacturer, velocity, etc, be damned, he just throws them into a large plastic bucket, after removing them from the original containers, and uses them helter skelter in his Ruger 10/22.

He ran into a similar issue that this thread is about.

I wasn't there when it happened, but he called me about it to check out his Ruger, which was fine, considering it probably has a couple of hundred thousand rounds through it, and it's worn and sloppy, but still goes bang every time, and is no less accurate than it was new.

Anyway, to make a long story short, he had a couple of catastrophic failures that didn't do any damage to the rifle, mag, or shooter, so just continued to shoot, until one, just like described in another reply above, blew out the side of his magazine, causing it to drop out of the rfle, without damaging anything else.

The ammo was all mixed headstamps and velocities, bullet shapes, etc. He didn't know which headstamp was causing the issues, so he decided to throw the whole five gallon pail of ammo away.

He had just opened this bucket, after squirreling it away about six months previously, and I felt it was a waste, so I gave him $100 for what was left of the bucket, likely 20K rounds.

After sorting through it all to separate the headstamps and bullet dimensions, I had 11 headstamps from NA, Europe, and China. There were a couple of different bullet configurations, which went into cans of their own. I used 50 cal ammo cans for the variants.

I couldn't see anything on any of the cases that was obviously dangerous, other than some Remington "Stinger" which had a copper color, rather than shiny brass.

I shot all of that ammo through several different bolt action 22rf rifles without a single mishap, other than a couple of misfires in some unknown Chinese ammo, which was also filthy to shoot.

This is just an example of how these things work. For every bad round, there were several thousand OK rounds. Finding them with random inspections ????????????
 
Got this response from CCI:

How many rounds from this lot # do you have left?

What firearm were you using these in?

Was there damage to your firearm?

Do you have photos of the firearm, cartridge etc?

This will get us started looking at your issue.

Thanks,

Cody Barker

Technical Service Rep.
2299 Snake River Ave.
Lewiston, ID 83501
Office: 866-286-7436
 
At least CCI is very responsive, sent the message Saturday afternoon, received an answer today:

Name...,

We handle each and every incident that is reported to us and work with our team to get these issues resolved as needed. We appreciate your support of our products. With that if you observe such an issue have them reach out to us and we will work to resolve the issue with them.
As far as The lot # F17W08 there haven’t been any issues with this lot in the many many years it has been on the market.

Thanks,
 
Chas said:
Got this response from CCI:

How many rounds from this lot # do you have left?

What firearm were you using these in?

Was there damage to your firearm?

Do you have photos of the firearm, cartridge etc?

This will get us started looking at your issue.

Thanks,

Cody Barker

Technical Service Rep.
2299 Snake River Ave.
Lewiston, ID 83501
Office: 866-286-7436
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Got the same email today aswell. Going to respond tonight
 
They will only respond to the shooters that have had incidents with their ammo, so if you had an issue, make sure you contact them at the link in page 2:

"We appreciate you contacting us. In issues like this we work directly with the customers on a case by case basis directly with them and will do so here as well as they contact us and monitor for further action. We appreciate your support for our products.

Thanks"
 
Do you guys think it’s worth getting the gun inspected by a gunsmith after this sort of failure?

From what I was told quickly by the guys at the range that it should be fine, and not to stress it.
 
Chas said:
Got this response from CCI:

How many rounds from this lot # do you have left?

What firearm were you using these in?

Was there damage to your firearm?

Do you have photos of the firearm, cartridge etc?

This will get us started looking at your issue.

Thanks,

Cody Barker

Technical Service Rep.
2299 Snake River Ave.
Lewiston, ID 83501
Office: 866-286-7436
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same response I initially received. now i'm i to the final phase. they want me to take my remaining stock
to a police or fire-station for destruction and they are to provide me with a notice of destruction on lettterhead and i'm to send this in email back to CCI agent.

is this something canadian police or fire-stations will do? what kind of questions and red tape am i going to have to deal with so CCI can simply reimburse me by cheque for the amount I paid, not what it costs now since the recent increases?
 
kbdplinker said:
same response I initially received. now i'm i to the final phase. they want me to take my remaining stock
to a police or fire-station for destruction and they are to provide me with a notice of destruction on lettterhead and i'm to send this in email back to CCI agent.

is this something canadian police or fire-stations will do? what kind of questions and red tape am i going to have to deal with so CCI can simply reimburse me by cheque for the amount I paid, not what it costs now since the recent increases?
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Looks like low class.
 
kbdplinker said:
same response I initially received. now i'm i to the final phase. they want me to take my remaining stock
to a police or fire-station for destruction and they are to provide me with a notice of destruction on lettterhead and i'm to send this in email back to CCI agent.

is this something canadian police or fire-stations will do? what kind of questions and red tape am i going to have to deal with so CCI can simply reimburse me by cheque for the amount I paid, not what it costs now since the recent increases?
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Personally, it's not worth the potential headache. I'd accept the loss and move on.
 
I'm a bit surprised by their reply, where they state they've been selling that lot of ammunition for years.

Every time they make a new run of ammunition, it gets a specific lot number.

They make up several different "lots" each year, and maybe each month. It's difficult to purchase by the case and have the lot numbers be the same between cases.

Even on store shelves, it's often difficult to get the same lot number for two or more boxes.

I can see it if they have been selling a similar load for years, but not the same lot.
 
Not sure where you are located, its not an issue in Ontario - we contact OPP (small town northern Ontario) and make an appointment to drop off unwanted or misfired ammunition. I have done it with no problems.

I would suggest you call your local police detachment, explain what you want to turn in, make an appointment and move forward.

A friend of mine took her late husbands unwanted chemicals and darts used in radio collaring wildlife to the fire department in Winnipeg.

So may be either police or fire department depending on your location.

Let us know how you make out.
 
mephisto002 said:
Absolutely not!

This incompetent handling of such a serious issue, is reason for a major escalation!
Don't give them a break.
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Perhaps I should have elaborated a bit. I'm not saying that the ammunition in question isn't a serious matter. If you read back, I've been documenting ever case of case failure I come across.

When I say it's not worth the headache, I'm referring to taking it into the cops and dealing with the potential for ignorance when it comes to this sort of thing. I'd be calling a head before just walking in there. Make sure the situation and all the details are presented a head of time.
 
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