The really bad thing about this is the fact that people who find these rifles desirable and collectable,to an extent can't...The whole concept of prohibited status is flawed silly.If you do find these rifles desirible,then great!If not,well..stick to what you enjoy,but do try not to knock someone else's.....Legally,there would be no issues if the laws were different.....perhaps it's better to work on that??..R..
Valmet M78/AK74
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It has been published in the Canada Gazette that:
"One firearm, the Valmet Hunter, including the Valmet Hunter Auto and the Valmet M78, has been deleted from the class, as it has been determined that it is not essentially a paramilitary firearm and is suitable for hunting purposes."
"One firearm, the Valmet Hunter, including the Valmet Hunter Auto and the Valmet M78, has been deleted from the class, as it has been determined that it is not essentially a paramilitary firearm and is suitable for hunting purposes."
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CanAm said:
GT et all:
It is not OUR fault if the antis did a poor job of crafting their stupid to begin with legislation that bans object based on how they look and nothing more.
If you can rebuild a real valmet to look 100% Kalashnikov, then I see no problem with increased availability of said item. After all, the pointy heads say it's "suitable for hunting" which passes the purpose test IMHO.
If new made Valmets are commercially available and true to the original receiver's design, then I see no valid reason to deny entry to Canada. they are SUITABLE FOR HUNTING and EXEMPT FROM PROHIBITION.
I'd like to see the RCMP try to argue Parliament was wrong to specifically exempt a hunting rifle from prohibition... I'm sure Toevs and Stock would slap their pee-pees pretty quick for that.
Another thought: Is Valmet's copyright protection still valid? They haven't made M78's in like 20 years, so it may be expired. If not, I'll bet Sako would accept new made receivers if they got their cut.
tootall said:
Umm... Valmets are about $2000. The $3000 ones sit forever and never move. The ones successfully transformed into AK config are worth ALOT more than $500. Try more like $3000-4000.
And no-one bubba-ing anything here. The Valmet is a commercial AK variant that can be reconfigured into a milsurp variant lookalike??? Neither gun is collectible - just cool.
I was not trying to insult the work done here on this particular gun.
The pix are now removed, but from what I remember seeing, it was well done, so please don't take offence.
My comment was in reference to the cost of a TRUE Valmet M78, versus what most AK clones used to sell for prior to the SAP refusal thing.
If as much effort was put into overturning the SAP issue, or the original 12-5 prohibitions, you could buy and fire whatever type of AK you wanted.
BTW, the M78 is the longer RPK variant. The Valmet M71, and M76 are still prohibited.
All good, I hope?
The pix are now removed, but from what I remember seeing, it was well done, so please don't take offence.
My comment was in reference to the cost of a TRUE Valmet M78, versus what most AK clones used to sell for prior to the SAP refusal thing.
If as much effort was put into overturning the SAP issue, or the original 12-5 prohibitions, you could buy and fire whatever type of AK you wanted.
BTW, the M78 is the longer RPK variant. The Valmet M71, and M76 are still prohibited.
All good, I hope?
Very nice!
The top one with the wood handguard, carry handle, and angled rear portion of reciever is .308
And the lower one with plastic handguard, no carry handle, and squared off rear of reciever (difficult to see in pic) is .223, right?
Anyone else have photos of genuine Valmet M78's to post?
The top one with the wood handguard, carry handle, and angled rear portion of reciever is .308
And the lower one with plastic handguard, no carry handle, and squared off rear of reciever (difficult to see in pic) is .223, right?
Anyone else have photos of genuine Valmet M78's to post?
This one cost 685 dollars way back in the day from Lever Arms with 3 mags (1984 or so)... Mags were 20 bucks a piece, shoulda bought some more but hey, 60 rounds total seemed more than enough, now with the stupid 5 round rule and spare mags being 200+ USD a mag I am kicking myself for not gettting 30 mags at those prices. Could resell them and make a fortune nowadays. Damn 20/20 hindsight..
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Alan Lever brought in a couple of them and sold them cheap (supposedly he only brought in 5 of the M78 RPK style .308 rifles). Still have the orginal invoice sitting around inside the owners manual. Was a hell of a buy as I have been offered 3k for it. Will never sell it though...
That is psydo-commie-licious!
DAR 701 said:This one cost 685 dollars way back in the day from Lever Arms with 3 mags (1984 or so)... Mags were 20 bucks a piece, shoulda bought some more but hey, 60 rounds total seemed more than enough, now with the stupid 5 round rule and spare mags being 200+ USD a mag I am kicking myself for not gettting 30 mags at those prices. Could resell them and make a fortune nowadays. Damn 20/20 hindsight..
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