So basically, you pay extra $$ for the Weatherby name, rather than actual ballistic performance.
I suppose then that anyone shooting a rifle more expensive than a Stevens 200 is also paying extra for no added performance right?
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I suppose then that anyone shooting a rifle more expensive than a Stevens 200 is also paying extra for no added performance right?
This makes no sense at all.
There is a measurable quality, reliability and performance difference between a Stevens 200 and many other rifles.
There is no measurable ballistic difference between the same bullet leaving 2 different barrels at approximately the same speed.
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This makes no sense at all.
There is a measurable quality, reliability and performance difference between a Stevens 200 and many other rifles.
There is no measurable ballistic difference between the same bullet leaving 2 different barrels at approximately the same speed.
So on the one hand you are saying that we shouldn't pay more for similar performance in cartridges but it's fine to pay more for rifles? If a rifle is to be judged on how well it kills deer or puts holes in paper the a Stevens will do that just as well as a Remington, browning, tikka etc. If you think savage doesn't make a good action you are missinformed.
Fancy wood, shiny blueing, jeweled bolts etc. all do nothing to enhance performance so why is it ok to pay for those things but for some reason it is frowned upon by some people to buy better brass for bullets that go faster for more money?
I've had a coupel of Stevens 200 rifles. You may not be able to tell the difference between a Stevens 200 and another, higher quality rifle- but I can.
I'm not frowning on someone that wants to spend more money on brass to get the same results. It's your money, spend it how you choose.
But there is still no measurable ballistic difference between the same bullet leaving 2 different barrels at approximately the same speed, even if you are paying $4.50 per piece of brass!
"Oh and the freebore pissed me off as well."
Just for info's sake, there have been 3 different lengths of freebore over the years. 3/4", 1/2", and 3/8", if memory serves. It allowed you to burn more powder for higher velocities without excessive pressures. - dan
Just for info's sake, there have been 3 different lengths of freebore over the years. 3/4", 1/2", and 3/8", if memory serves. It allowed you to burn more powder for higher velocities without excessive pressures. - dan
The fact that Weatherby uses a bigger much more expensive case to deliver similar ballistics, doesn't say a lot for Weatherby.
The 30-378 gains roughly 3% more velocity over the 300RUM when both are loaded to the design pressures, but the 17HMR provides about double the velocity of the 22lr. At least with the 17HMR you get double the velocity for the huge increase in cost.
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All hail the new KING
If the 378 actually had people interested in purchasing it, it might qualify for king status...Unfortunately, it's not very popular. Meanwhile the 375 Ruger- the NEW KING- has been selling like crazy, and surprised Ruger and Hornady with how popular it has become.
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If the 378 actually had people interested in purchasing it, it might qualify for king status...Unfortunately, it's not very popular. Meanwhile the 375 Ruger- the NEW KING- has been selling like crazy, and surprised Ruger and Hornady with how popular it has become.
Oh, you mean all the ones that end up in the EE because people realize it offers nothing over the grand old H&H
We had a poll on huntingbc.ca about 375 caliber rifle ownership. With the 100 year head start of the H&H, it was of course the most popular. However the 375 RUger was in second place, far ahead of the 378 or 375 RUM. I am sure that we would find something similar here on CGN, although you woudl think with the many years the 378 has been around, that it would be more popular. But it's not.
Actual numbers:
155 voted
H&H- 91
Ruger- 42
Winchester- 17
378 Weatherby -7
The rest are all small numbers.
Oh, you mean all the ones that end up in the EE because people realize it offers nothing over the grand old H&H
No, I mean the ones that RUger were selling out of because the actual sales were far beyond any of thier initial projections.
I see once again this has turned into a discussion about the NEW KING!!!
the NEW KING is impotent!
Agreed.
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it's definitely king of irrelevance.
With Cartridges & Rifles dating back to the 40's....hardly.
The king of irrelevance is would be an apt description of the .375 Ruger.
Where will it be in as many years?
Being put to much more use by way more hunters than the 378 ever has been.
I'll admit (though I hate to) that the Ruger is a fine cartridge(Truth be known I own a .375 Ruger Alaskan) and probably a more sensible option if you were going to own only one .375 caliber rifle.
But..... There's something about a cartridge that can push a 270gr bullet as fast as a 7Mag can a 140(factory load)
It will never become a .375 sales leader but if you want one of the most bad-@$$ chamberings out there it's pretty tough to beat.
