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In 1962 I met a guy in a gun shop that had a 300 Wby with a brocken stock, he was there to buy a new stock of course there was non. A new stock had to come from California. The store had a new 300Wby I told the guy lets make a deal. I am looking for a complete barreled action. So I bought the 300 Wby borrowed a screw driver and toke off the stock and we spit the cost. I made a stock and hunted with this rifle for 25 years, it was super accurate. Nothing ever toke more than one shot. You just can't beat a 300 Wby. A bit on the heavy side but I packed it up and down mountains all over western Canada and Alaska. Mountain game you don't have to worry about how it stands the 180gr Bitterroot bulet would take care of it. Break bones and stop it right there nothing will walk away. After I busted my rotator cuff I had to quit using it. What a shame. The 300Wby is a number uno and stands alone for an all round hunting rifle.
Not too small for big stuff and not, and not too big for small stuff.
Long range Antelope and coyots with 196gr Match bullets is no contest when the wind blows in the prairie.
 
Fred M said:
In 1962 I met a guy in a gun shop that had a 300 Wby with a brocken stock, he was there to buy a new stock of course there was non. A new stock had to come from California. The store had a new 300Wby I told the guy lets make a deal. I am looking for a complete barreled action. So I bought the 300 Wby borrowed a screw driver and toke off the stock and we spit the cost. I made a stock and hunted with this rifle for 25 years, it was super accurate. Nothing ever toke more than one shot. You just can't beat a 300 Wby. A bit on the heavy side but I packed it up and down mountains all over western Canada and Alaska. Mountain game you don't have to worry about how it stands the 180gr Bitterroot bulet would take care of it. Break bones and stop it right there nothing will walk away. After I busted my rotator cuff I had to quit using it. What a shame. The 300Wby is a number uno and stands alone for an all round hunting rifle.
Not too small for big stuff and not, and not too big for small stuff.
Long range Antelope and coyots with 196gr Match bullets is no contest when the wind blows in the prairie.
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Thanks for sharing that. I agree that the .300Wby is a world class cartridge capable of handling anything we care to pursue on this continent.

Elgin Gates used one exclusively to hunt everything,everywhere. Africa included.
 
Gatehouse said:
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If we are talking about velocity, then they are pretty close, yes.
If you want CRAZY ammo prices,look at the 30-378 Weatherby ammo with TTSX bullets- $6.85 a shot! For .308 caliber ammo!! Now THAT is insane! :)
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Weatherby now offers the Mark V Accumark and the TTR in .338 Lapua Mag.

That would be slightly more economical to shoot than a .30-378 WBY MAG or a .338-378 WBY MAG.

That must be why they did that. :rolleyes:
 
sask378 said:
Weatherby now offers the Mark V Accumark and the TTR in .338 Lapua Mag.

That would be slightly more economical to shoot than a .30-378 WBY MAG or a .338-378 WBY MAG.

That must be why they did that. :rolleyes:
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I imagine that they offer the 338 LM in the those rifles because it's popular in that sort of rifle. Certainly more popular than the Weatherby offerings in that style of rifle....

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You were discussing the Stevens 200 as being just as good quality as any other rifle, not discussing custom built target rifles. Try again. :p



I really don't care how you spend your money. If you want to spend more on brass to do the same thing, then go for it. It doesn't make sense to me,but you go right ahead. :)



I think stubblejumper already measured the difference for us. 3% I think it was..You may believe that will translate into a measurable difference when shooting at a target or game, but I don't.;)



Lots of people spend lots of money on lots of stuff that makes no real practical difference. :)

You may think that a 30-378 pushing a 200gr NAB 50 or 75 or even 100 fps faster than your 300RUM will make a difference on targets and game- But I don't ;)



If we are talking about velocity, then they are pretty close, yes.
If you want CRAZY ammo prices,look at the 30-378 Weatherby ammo with TTSX bullets- $6.85 a shot! For .308 caliber ammo!! Now THAT is insane! :)
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You missed the point about stevens being used for custom rifles. The point you missed is that the actions are good enough to be used for custom projects. Not that custom rifles with steven actions are better than stock rifles. Everyone knows that anyways.

The money I spend on 257 wby brass has no equal for less money.

3% when talking 300 rum speeds is ~120fps. That is the kind of increase people AI their cartridge for, put on longer custom barrels and what makes people think the 375 ruger is better than the 375 H&H. ;)

Just because you don't think that an extra 100+fps makes a difference on killing animals at further ranges (something the super 300's are fully capable of) doesn't mean that there isn't a difference. You're just not aware of it.
 
kman300 said:
You missed the point about stevens being used for custom rifles. The point you missed is that the actions are good enough to be used for custom projects.
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They are being used for custom target rifles. I dont' see many people lining up for a custom general hunting rifle with a Savage action!

Regardless, you were talking about Stevens 200's and when it became clear you were wrong, you switched to this custom rifle angle.:)

Not that custom rifles with steven actions are better than stock rifles. Everyone knows that anyways.
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So now everyone knows that there are better rifles than Stevens 200's? Not what you said before! You are funny.

The money I spend on 257 wby brass has no equal for less money.
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That is great. I am happy you are happy with how you spend your money. The .257 Weatherby is one of the few Weatherby cartridges that actually stands above the other cartridges in it's caliber, in that you can get 250+ FPS more with it than say a 25-06. The 30-378- not so much.;)

3% when talking 300 rum speeds is ~120fps. That is the kind of increase people AI their cartridge for, put on longer custom barrels and what makes people think the 375 ruger is better than the 375 H&H
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The reason I prefer the Ruger to the H&H has nothing to do with velocity....It's got a bit more horsepower, but that is not the attraction. Nice try though...

Just because you don't think that an extra 100+fps makes a difference on killing animals at further ranges (something the super 300's are fully capable of) doesn't mean that there isn't a difference. You're just not aware of it.
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Is this where you tell me that a 30-378 at 500 yards is going to kill a deer or moose deader than a 300RUM at 500 yards? Because if that is what you are saying, I'm just going to laugh.:p

Actually, I've been laughing for a loong time :)
 
Just because you don't think that an extra 100+fps makes a difference on killing animals at further ranges (something the super 300's are fully capable of) doesn't mean that there isn't a difference. You're just not aware of it.
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If I really wanted the extra 100fps, I would bypass the 30-378 altogether, and go with a 7.82 Warbird, and gain a little more velocity over the 30-378.
 
Gatehouse said:
They are being used for custom target rifles. I dont' see many people lining up for a custom general hunting rifle with a Savage action!

Regardless, you were talking about Stevens 200's and when it became clear you were wrong, you switched to this custom rifle angle.:)



So now everyone knows that there are better rifles than Stevens 200's? Not what you said before! You are funny.



That is great. I am happy you are happy with how you spend your money. The .257 Weatherby is one of the few Weatherby cartridges that actually stands above the other cartridges in it's caliber, in that you can get 250+ FPS more with it than say a 25-06. The 30-378- not so much.;)



The reason I prefer the Ruger to the H&H has nothing to do with velocity....It's got a bit more horsepower, but that is not the attraction. Nice try though...



Is this where you tell me that a 30-378 at 500 yards is going to kill a deer or moose deader than a 300RUM at 500 yards? Because if that is what you are saying, I'm just going to laugh.:p

Actually, I've been laughing for a loong time :)
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Spend some time on longrangehunting.com and you will see the kind of hunting rifles people make using the savage actions. Not only talking paper rifles here.

You need to re-read my post. Everyone knows that custom rifles with stevens actions are better than stock rifles. Not that stock rifles are better than customs with stevens.

Again, 120 fps is significant for people. If it isn't for you that's fine.

No I'm not talking 500 yards. You can do that with a 30/06. Don't need a magnum for that at all.
 
kman300 said:
Spend some time on longrangehunting.com and you will see the kind of hunting rifles people make using the savage actions. Not only talking paper rifles here.

You need to re-read my post. Everyone knows that custom rifles with stevens actions are better than stock rifles. Not that stock rifles are better than customs with stevens.
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Yes, I know that people are using Savage actions to make long range rigs, but they aren't making custom general purpose hunting rifles with them. Regardless, you brought the Savage thing into the discussion not to discuss long range custom Savages, but to attempt (rather poorly) to say that if I didn't think there was value in paying extra for Weatherby brass, then I must think that Stevens 200 rifles were the equal of all others:

I suppose then that anyone shooting a rifle more expensive than a Stevens 200 is also paying extra for no added performance right?
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So I responded (quite accurately)

This makes no sense at all.:p

There is a measurable quality, reliability and performance difference between a Stevens 200 and many other rifles.
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Now somehow you have gone off on a silly rant about custom Savage rifles which has very little to do with the conversation.:confused:

Again, 120 fps is significant for people. If it isn't for you that's fine.

No I'm not talking 500 yards. You can do that with a 30/06. Don't need a magnum for that at all.
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Okay, lets try again:p


Is this where you tell me that a 30-378 at 1000 yards is going to kill a deer or moose deader than a 300RUM at 1000 yards? Because if that is what you are saying, I'm just going to laugh.:p

Actually, I've been laughing for a loong time;)
 
But brass for the 7.82 warbird costs..... I better not say for fear of starting another tirade from the misers
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It costs $50 for 20 rounds of brass from Lazzeroni. My dealer can have it here for less than the 30-378 brass.

Lazzeroni Unprimed Brass Cases (20 per box)


653SJ-UBC 6.53 (.257) SCRAMJET $49.99
721FB-UBC 7.21 (.284) FIREBIRD $49.99
782WB-UBC 7.82 (.308) WARBIRD $49.99
859TN-UBC 8.59 (.338) TITAN $49.99
953ST-UBC 9.53 (.375) SATURN $49.99
1057MR-UBC 10.57 (.416) METEOR $49.99
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