Well it turns out I need a new rifle.

[1899]

I have owned Remington 700s and I have owned Tikkas....... I currently don't own ANY Tikkas. I own 9 Model 700s.......

That doesn't say anything about accuracy. How many Tikkas have you owned? How many of your Model 700s are as they left the factory?

Not to mention that, unless you go with an SPS, the Tikka costs less. Don't get me wrong, I've also owned both, and like both, but to say a T3 is a "poor choice" is a pretty broad statement that I happen to disagree with.

 

[slick39]

I'm not sure why so many people hate Tikka so much...so what the stock isn't wood or whatever. I haven't heard of any breaking? I've owned on and loved it, they are amazing rifles and super accurate right out of the box. People need to stop drinking the Remington kool-aid.

 

[notsorichguy]

That doesn't say anything about accuracy. How many Tikkas have you owned? How many of your Model 700s are as they left the factory?

Not to mention that, unless you go with an SPS, the Tikka costs less. Don't get me wrong, I've also owned both, and like both, but to say a T3 is a "poor choice" is a pretty broad statement that I happen to disagree with.

I didn't say it was a poor choice...... The 4 Tikka T3s I have owned didn't 'do better' than the 700s they were supposed to replace. YMMV

And you have me there, I don't think a single one of my Remmys is in 'factory' condidtion......

 

[1899]

I didn't say it was a poor choice...... The 4 Tikka T3s I have owned didn't 'do better' than the 700s they were supposed to replace. YMMV

And you have me there, I don't think a single one of my Remmys is in 'factory' condidtion......

I was responding to an earlier post that said the T3 was a poor choice. For a fellow that wants to customize or fiddle around (which is many of us I suspect) the Remington 700 is head and shoulders above the rest. The aftermarket has really taken care of that model.

All I am saying is that the Tikka is piced well, shoots well and for the average fellow it is far from a poor choice. I guess that makes me average!

 

[smellie]

Have any of you guys actually read through this thread?
How many of you understand it?

Here is what I have learned:
Remmies are overrated and not accurate. Most of the REMINGTON rifles I have used will get better than 1 MOA. How much better do you need?

People "aren't sure" about the new Winnies. The company that is making them was started in 1889: 121 years ago. They just MIGHT know a LITTLE more than some of you. The action is developed from the old 54 which was basically a civilianised M1917 which was an American P-14 which was a .303 P-13 which was a copy, much improved and beefed-up, of the 1895 MOUSIE.

The people who build SAVVIES have been making rifles for 111 years now. I don't like their extractors, but the things can shoot very well indeed.

TIKKIES are over-rated, of course, and much too expensive. Likely so are SAKKIES, but it can be pretty hard to outshoot either one, given that you know what you are doing.

HOWIES appear to be the choice of the day, although why anyone would want to buy a rifle made in a country where you can't have a gun, is beyond me. Pure hypocrisy and greed on the part of the Japanese, but they are good at that: they STILL haven't apologised for what they did to our prisoners.

RUGIES aren't even in the equation, for some unknown reason.

So look at the things from the standpoint of function. Savvies and Tikkies and Sakkies and Remmies and even Howies all have push-feed and ridiculous little snap-in extractors which are nigh impossible to change in the field.

Winnies and Rugies and Mousies all have that huge Mauser rotating extractor which helps give you true controlled-round feeding. They only break when abused seriously and they are easy to change-out in the field.

On the other hand, if you need a rifle that DOESN'T break when it is abused, get a Lee-Enfield.

And just TRY to cutie-pie THAT one.

Remmies and Winnies indeed!

Kindergarten.
.

 

[8mmpeter]

I will take a Finnish Tikka over a Japanese Weatherby or Browning any day. For a functional, reasonably priced sporting rifle, they are a great choice. Plastic might not be as pretty to look at as a deep bluing job, and feel cheaper in the hand, but i have yet to hear anyone ##### about breaking the plastic parts on a Tikka.

It might not be a ridiculously priced, marginally better custom M70, but it will fill its purpose just fine.

x2!

 

[8mmpeter]

The guy bought a new rifle that he is probably proud of. So proud, in fact that he wanted to share it with some of his so called brothers here on cgn. Well wishers welcome. Anyone else can pretty much take a hike if you ask me!

 

[8mmpeter]

Some of you (you know who you are) can take your holier than thow attitude and stuff it. Sell a couple of your high priced rigs and use the money to buy some manners. _ouche bags.

 

[Jordan Smith]

Which is one of many reasons why it was a poor choice. You can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink as they say. Problem is, 85% of the advice coming from gun/hunting forums is worth exactly what you paid for it.

So are most of the opinions.......*cough*

 

[lamafat]

I know someone who is thinking of selling a winchester model 88 in .243 It would sell for uner $1000.

 

[chuck nelson]

So are most of the opinions.......*cough*

And not all opinions are created equal.

 

[mike shickele]

Have any of you guys actually read through this thread?
How many of you understand it?

Here is what I have learned:
Remmies are overrated and not accurate. Most of the REMINGTON rifles I have used will get better than 1 MOA. How much better do you need?

People "aren't sure" about the new Winnies. The company that is making them was started in 1889: 121 years ago. They just MIGHT know a LITTLE more than some of you. The action is developed from the old 54 which was basically a civilianised M1917 which was an American P-14 which was a .303 P-13 which was a copy, much improved and beefed-up, of the 1895 MOUSIE.

The people who build SAVVIES have been making rifles for 111 years now. I don't like their extractors, but the things can shoot very well indeed.

TIKKIES are over-rated, of course, and much too expensive. Likely so are SAKKIES, but it can be pretty hard to outshoot either one, given that you know what you are doing.

HOWIES appear to be the choice of the day, although why anyone would want to buy a rifle made in a country where you can't have a gun, is beyond me. Pure hypocrisy and greed on the part of the Japanese, but they are good at that: they STILL haven't apologised for what they did to our prisoners.

RUGIES aren't even in the equation, for some unknown reason.

So look at the things from the standpoint of function. Savvies and Tikkies and Sakkies and Remmies and even Howies all have push-feed and ridiculous little snap-in extractors which are nigh impossible to change in the field.

Winnies and Rugies and Mousies all have that huge Mauser rotating extractor which helps give you true controlled-round feeding. They only break when abused seriously and they are easy to change-out in the field.

On the other hand, if you need a rifle that DOESN'T break when it is abused, get a Lee-Enfield.

And just TRY to cutie-pie THAT one.

Remmies and Winnies indeed!

Kindergarten.
.

Winchester is not the same company as it was over 100 years ago; they are the same only in trademark. There are now 4 rifles that have been called model 70; 5 if you include the origonal post 64, and I'm willing to put money on the fact that gunsmiths have seen more broken Mauser extractors than Remington, Howa, Savage and sako combined.
Mike

 

[Jordan Smith]

And not all opinions are created equal.

That was my point

 

[Jordan Smith]

I know someone who is thinking of selling a winchester model 88 in .243 It would sell for uner $1000.

Hopefully well under. Not to burst his bubble, but they're only worth about $400-600 at best.

 

[pharaoh2]

Opinions are like #######s, those who are don't think theirs stink.

 

[8mmpeter]

^^^^^ amen^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[Cummins4x4]

Holy sh!t batman, talk about a thread going off the rails!!

 

[Jordan Smith]

Opinions are like a**holes, those who are don't think theirs stink.

LOL!! Good call!

 

[smellie]

Mike Schikele; quite agree as to Winchester, but they were founded in 1866 anyway. The modern rifle is built by FN, which was founded in 1889: like I said, 121 years ago.

Mousie extractors get bent/broken because klutzes insist on tossing a round into the chamber and slamming the bolt shut on it. Mausers should be fed from the magazine, always; that's what they were designed to do. As the bolt run forward, the cartridge rises up, being pushed by the moving bolt and slips in BETWEEN the bolt body and the extractor. Nice thing about a Mauser extractor is that you CAN change it in the field if you have to. There are a LOT of rifles that you can't do that with. Also goes for Brownies if made on Mousie actions, older Tikkies and Sakkies as well.

Are we cutesy enough yet?

Sure hope so.

Have fun, all!
.

 

[shortaction]

Congrats on the new rifle. You should be really happy with the T3 Lite. I think for the money they are hard to beat, especially if you want a rifle with a Detachable Mag. The 70 degree bolt lift is another plus in my books.

I have the mates to yours. One in 7mm-08 and one in the 243win also and it is my go to Coyote gun. I use the Winchester Supreme 55gr ammo and it just stones coyotes.

I have a couple of beautiful Model 70 Featherweights, both CRF, I love how they fit me and I really enjoy shooting them, but they don't see much field use as I really prefer a rifle with a Detachable Mag for hunting.

Hope you enjoy the new rifle!