What is the best distance to zero 7.62 x 39?

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What is the best distance to zero a vz / cz 58 in at?

I know that for 223 ammuntion a zero of 250 and a near zero of 50 makes the best use of the bullets flight path but does it also play the same for the 7.62x39 round?

What have you guys been doing?

Thanks.
 
Zero near sight at 50 should be on again at 175 it is a 200 yard gun at best. Hard to hit with at 250 I just did a Intermediate Fighting rifle course and this is what we found
 
Depends what rifle and what ammo? I zero my SKS on the battle setting at 30 / 300 yards. Commercial rounds are loaded hotter and shoot higher than surplus rounds.
 
I have mine "roughly" zeroed at 100 yards with the rear sight on 100. Basically it will poke holes in beer cans from a standing position at 100 yards with dirty surplus. Not sure what that would make the U accurate at nor have I tested the accuracy of the 200, 300, etc markings.

I finally have a decent bi-pod mount and plan on zeroing it properly. I'll post up what I find.
 
I zeroed mine with a red dot scope at about 55 yards - just because that was what was available at the time. I nailed a coyote at 185 yards a while back while aiming dead on. Good 'nuf for me. Gotta love that rifle and the 7.62x39 is becoming one of my favorites.
 
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I'd zero at 25 yards. This would be at Zero again at roughly 200 yards.

If you're concerned about being Tacticool, and wanting to be "Minute of Man", the 200 yard zero would hypothetically allow you to be on target at ranged up to 300 yards, which is effectively the range of the cartridge.

With a 200 yard zero, you'd be able to basically aim between the nipples and hit the target anywhere between 0 yards to 300 yards (maybe even aim a bit low at 100 yards).

If you're thinking of shooting silhouettes, that's what I'd do. 300 yards is a long way with irons and an SKS. You're looking at a large group at 300, but at least you'd be roughly correct in elevation.
 
spooksar said:
Zero near sight at 50 should be on again at 175 it is a 200 yard gun at best. Hard to hit with at 250 I just did a Intermediate Fighting rifle course and this is what we found
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What? I shoot my non restriced cz at 300y gongs and they hit. That is with ####ty surplus. My 11.75" csa carbine can shoot fantastic at 100y, havent tried any further from this one though
 
bfiles said:
What? I shoot my non restriced cz at 300y gongs and they hit. That is with s**tty surplus. My 11.75" csa carbine can shoot fantastic at 100y, havent tried any further from this one though
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Using the regulated irons sights or with a red dot?

Spooksar is referring to shooting with a RDS on a CSA carbine. Also, not from the bench, rather prone in the muskeg.

I zero a bit high at 50m with my red dot. My irons are zeroed to match the rear sight regulation on my non-res 858s.

The CSA carbine's ballistics will not match the rear sight regulation, no matter where you zero the irons.

7.62x39 has the trajectory of a football. Any zero with a RDS will be a compromise. Hitting targets at distances other than your zero will require practice and an understanding of where your rifle shoots.
 
I zeroed my POSP scope at 200m (roughly 34m for the close point). One click down is about 45m/158m(which is a nice, +/-2" from 15 to 182m), and another click puts it pretty much bang on at 100m (highest point in the trajectory).
 
Stevo said:
Using the regulated irons sights or with a red dot?

Spooksar is referring to shooting with a RDS on a CSA carbine. Also, not from the bench, rather prone in the muskeg.

I zero a bit high at 50m with my red dot. My irons are zeroed to match the rear sight regulation on my non-res 858s.

The CSA carbine's ballistics will not match the rear sight regulation, no matter where you zero the irons.

7.62x39 has the trajectory of a football. Any zero with a RDS will be a compromise. Hitting targets at distances other than your zero will require practice and an understanding of where your rifle shoots.
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Iron sights, dont give a rats ass if know one believes me as it has been done many times, not only from me but from other shooters at my range too.:HR:

Sorry didnt read your full post. My CSA groups anywhere from 2-5" at 100y. Well the ballistics seems to work great with the irons on my csa. Anywhere I put the front post is usually where it goes.
 
Zero the 100m irons for 100m. The scope zero is adjustable via the Elevation thingy. Mark the 100, 200, 300 yard clicks. Done.

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This discussion is especiallly meaningless if you don't specify the height of the sights.
 
Wow, thanks for all the info, from what Greg11 showed I will be sighting it in at 25 and that should allow for good sillotte shooting. Thanks again everyone....
 
bfiles said:
Iron sights, dont give a rats ass if know one believes me as it has been done many times, not only from me but from other shooters at my range too.:HR:

Sorry didnt read your full post. My CSA groups anywhere from 2-5" at 100y. Well the ballistics seems to work great with the irons on my csa. Anywhere I put the front post is usually where it goes.
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I never said anything about not believing you, nor did anyone else. I don't have any problems hitting the silhouettes at our range out to 500m with the irons off the bench. When they're zeroed properly and you adjust them to the appropriate distance, they eliminate need for estimating hold overs like with a RDS.

On my 858 with the Bushnell TRS-25 I turn off the RDS and shoot the irons when I go past 200m.

bushido said:
Wow, thanks for all the info, from what Greg11 showed I will be sighting it in at 25 and that should allow for good sillotte shooting. Thanks again everyone....
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You will shoot way over any target at 100m unless you hold low.
 
"On my 858 with the Bushnell TRS-25 I turn off the RDS and shoot the irons when I go past 200m."

I always keep my TRS-25 on as I find that front site gets just too big at long range. The dot in the red dot gets big too, but it is just plain easier to see.
 
saskcop said:
"On my 858 with the Bushnell TRS-25 I turn off the RDS and shoot the irons when I go past 200m."

I always keep my TRS-25 on as I find that front site gets just too big at long range. The dot in the red dot gets big too, but it is just plain easier to see.
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I don't do it because of the dot size or the front sight post. I do it because I suck at estimating and holding the huge hold-over consistently with the RDS.
 
misanthropist said:
this is the internet, stevo, there is no need to admit to not being better than everyone else at everything.

Personally I shoot 1911s at 500m...they are good for about 5 moa from the bench, or 3 moa if I'm shooting them offhand.
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I'm not sure what you're getting at but I post honest info. I'm too old and cranky to waste my time bull####ting.;)
 
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