What makes glocks so popular????

First time I went handgun shooting I was shooting my buddy's Glock... It jammed on me a couple of times. Apparently the gun was well cared for and we were shooting good factory ammo, and I wasn't limp-wristing. Whenever I hear about the legendary reliability I think back to myself pointing the legendary reliability downrange after the click, thinking "Ummmm.... Ok... what now?". This was about 10 years ago in the states - since then it has jammed on him twice.

I may not be the most experienced shooter, but I do know that they do jam.

(I now shield myself against the barrage of responses for speaking poorly of "The Glock")
 
Reloads through most makes of firearm will void your warranty. Reloads cannot be controlled, hence the reason for voiding your warranty. Should factory ammo cause issues, said manufacturer replaces your hardware. If the firearm is to blame (when using factory ammo) the manufacturer replaces your firearm.

That being the case there are several thousand Glock owners who shoot reloads. All without issue. You take the risk running reloads in any firearm. Some folks aren't too bright when it comes to reloads and end up destroying their firearms. Personally I shoot factory and factory only. I don't have the time nor patience to reload. Same reason why I buy my milk.

The unsupported chamber issue and the "low price point to please the LE market" are the most commonly used BS arguments when it comes time to bash Glocks. Oh, and the good old Glock KB issues. Again, most cases of Glock KB's were due to POOR RELOADS or incorrect ammo(in one case of a Glock 21 with a 40 cal casing clearly visible). Millions of Glocks, consuming millions of rounds are going strong.

Cheap, unsupported chambers, and a tendency to blow up seems to be working out well for Glock. Last I hear Glock accounts for nearly 70% of the US LE market. I'm sure their civilian sales are up there too.

TDC

ETA: PLightning,

No one said that Glocks were impervious to FAILURES(Jam is spread on a sandwich or toast ;) ). However, a Glock is far less likely to fail than other firearms, or so has been the case. My Glock has seen a little over 27,000 rounds now and has never failed. My lack of failures is not a rare event for Glocks.
 
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Yes, you were.:D

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Fact remains they're the only gun manufacturer that I know of (admittedly, there's a lot that I don't know) that discourages against reloads in their manual. That says something.


Every one i own says no to reloads. It is actaully bold in my sig manual. And that's to hell and back reliability talking there.

Why would a manufacturer say ok to reloads when there are no standards to the reload, you could be making extreme hot rounds and blow your gun up. Why would they replace what you broke?
 
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Cheap
Accurate
Reliable
Durable

One thing people forget to mention is that Glock is well known around the world, and is like pop culture icon of handguns. I bet most members on this board that have handguns own one.
 
I'm actually pretty ambivalent about Glocks. I have owned a couple (I'd sold my first Glock before the 22 and 23 became available) and they are decently accurate and highly reliable. As far as the kaboom "myth" goes, most guys who dismiss it haven't held an exploded Glock (I have, not pretty) so I guess really it comes down to what you want to buy into. I can tell you I would not shoot full power lead reloads in a Glock. The nicest Glock I've fired was an early Aerotek protoype, through-slide ported, laser in the guide rod and very, very light trigger with the laser wiring built into the frame and activated by a grip safety like switch. That gun recoiled downward with high-gas loads (165+P). So after all of that I'm still not as blown away by the Glock as many are, I guess I'm just not a Glock guy.
 
Glocks are very accurate and cheap. They don't break, jam or do anything wrong. I don't like the triggers, and some of them make strange noises when you pull the slide back... sounds like a creaky screen door opening to me.
They are an enigma to me. I've shot them a few times and I don't really like the feel or the trigger, but I keep going back to them for some reason. I dry fired one that had an aftermarket trigger in it, and that made a huge difference. Maybe I do like them afterall? I like the Springfield XD much more for feel... but I'll be damned if I don't always find myself looking at Glocks right after.

Have you tried the 34 or 35 model? The triggers are lighter (4.5 lbs pull rather the usual 5.5 lbs) on these models. Is it just the trigger weight or something else you don't like?
 
people who want a reliable workhorse buy a glock.... people that want a "my pretty pony" to bolster their manhood buy a 1911 ;)

and the rest who want a servicable duty arm buy sig, beretta, ruger, etc....
 
I got to try one last summer and found it quite nice to shoot.
I'd love to get one for myself someday. :)

Also steeleclipse and many others have said...
Cheap
Accurate
Reliable
Durable

Besides which I live in a Westcoast Rainforest...and Polymer doesn't rust. :p
 
I'm actually pretty ambivalent about Glocks. I have owned a couple (I'd sold my first Glock before the 22 and 23 became available) and they are decently accurate and highly reliable. As far as the kaboom "myth" goes, most guys who dismiss it haven't held an exploded Glock (I have, not pretty) so I guess really it comes down to what you want to buy into. I can tell you I would not shoot full power lead reloads in a Glock. The nicest Glock I've fired was an early Aerotek protoype, through-slide ported, laser in the guide rod and very, very light trigger with the laser wiring built into the frame and activated by a grip safety like switch. That gun recoiled downward with high-gas loads (165+P). So after all of that I'm still not as blown away by the Glock as many are, I guess I'm just not a Glock guy.

Accuracy is a function of the shooter. The gear involved has little to do with it. Sidearms/secondary's/handguns are primarily employed in short range work, 25 yards and under. At these ranges, any error in shot placement is attributed to the shooter and their skill or lack there of.

It amazes me how many "shooters" proclaim that pistol X with load Y won't shoot. In the same breathe, another shooter with the same setup has no issues cutting clean holes in the 10 ring or anywhere else s/he desires on the target. If the only change in the situation is the shooter. How can the firearm or ammunition be the cause of poor results? Answer: The shooter is the cause, not the gear. Do professional athletes/teams win games because of superior gear or superior skill? That's what I thought...

Aerotek is not Glock. They are an after market company who for the most part offer useless crap for those who feel that investing in "cool guy" gear will somehow improve their marksmanship. Ported barrels and/or slides on semi auto pistols is neither necessary nor useful. Lasers are probably the single most useless device one can attach, install, or mount on a firearm. Lasers are generally delicate instruments that rarely hold zero. Their visibility in daylight is minimal, they're visible only at short ranges,they require batteries which do fail and lasers are only visible if nothing is obstructing their line of sight. Lasers from a practical side indicate both your point of aim/impact as well as your location.

The stock triggers in Glock pistols are just fine. lightened triggers similar to those found in 1911 style pistols are desirable for those who do not understand the fundamentals of shooting or don't wish to spend the time to master them.

Glocks have blown up, so has every other make out there. The Glock KB's get a lot more attention simply because so many refuse to accept that Polymer framed firearms are here to stay and so is Glock. Hence why every manufacturer out there now offers a polymer firearm.

The Glock line of pistols often comes up short for a lot of peoples expectations. A lot of people seem to be less than humbled when they discover that Glocks are simple by design, rugged, and work. They won't make you a better marksman, they won't clean themselves, and they won't dazzle the ladies with their gorgeous lines or contrasting stainless parts. Glocks work, and do so regardless of whether you praise their design or despise it.

I don't care what anyone shoots, its your money and your choice. I do have an issue with folks who proceed to trash talk a particular brand or make when they know little or nothing about it. Someone above stated they would prefer a Hi-Power over a Glock due to sentimental reasons and their personal taste. I can respect that. Personal taste is very much a personal thing.

TDC
 
Cheap
Accurate
Reliable
Durable

One thing people forget to mention is that Glock is well known around the world, and is like pop culture icon of handguns. I bet most members on this board that have handguns own one.


Sir, I kindly ask that you retract your big flabby statement that I would EVER countenance one of those horrible things in my collection of handguns, except perhaps at such time when I am rich enough to own museum pieces. (i.e. - Here is the neato plastic invention that a shovel-maker for the Austrian army came up with when asked to design a handgun. It was the spark that started a fire of better designs within a few years of it's introduction.)

Until I am that rich, I only buy handguns that I like to shoot!

:)

Regards,

Neal
 
Maybe these glocks are not so bad after all!

G'day Everyone

Thanks a bunch for all the comments from my original posting. I actually went out today to a dealer in town that sells glocks and looked it over (G21 since they didn't have a G20). It's still ugly as sin, but I was impressed with the light feel of it and how it felt in my hands. I don't consider myself to have large hands but I do not think I would have any trouble holding onto it when I can get myself a G20 and fire full load 10mm.

An intersting point for all non-glockers out there (myself included), the firearm field strips very easily and is remarkably similar to Smith & Wesson 4506, that's can't be coincidence can it?

After reading all the replies to this string I have decided to take the to the dark side and by the glock. when I can get my hands on a G20, I'll let everyone know my inital impressions.

Thanks a bunch!
 
Glocks are very accurate and cheap. They don't break, jam or do anything wrong. I don't like the triggers, and some of them make strange noises when you pull the slide back... sounds like a creaky screen door opening to me.
They are an enigma to me. I've shot them a few times and I don't really like the feel or the trigger, but I keep going back to them for some reason. I dry fired one that had an aftermarket trigger in it, and that made a huge difference. Maybe I do like them afterall? I like the Springfield XD much more for feel... but I'll be damned if I don't always find myself looking at Glocks right after.

Glocks break, more than some big names, less than others. They do fail, but are among the most reliable guns out there. They don't fit everyone, they are resonably accurate, and the triggers are acceptable.
I like the fact that parts are cheap and easy to find. I dislike the mythology that surrounds them. I have a collection of cracked slides and failed frames here, just to remind people that all things mechanical fail.
 
Hitler had a Glock.

Yeah that would not surprize me.....

However, the first time I shot a friends 9mm Glock at the local range I was impressed by it's accuracy. I was pessimistic at first but...
The thought of unsupported chamber, did not sit well with me either.

The same range session, I tried his CZ-95(?) as well. I liked it's feel better, (CZ) but the Glock was a did group better in my hands.

I shot the Glock very well, dispite it's unbeautiful look, it seemed to fit well in my grip.
This design has my grudging respect.
 
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I reload for my glock 21sf, I love it. I don't get what the big deal with the unsupported chamber is. My brass has been loaded a few times now, other than being dirty from not having a tumbler yet, it doesn't look bad at all. I'm using largely max or near max loads, nothing has gotten stretched out of shape. I've only lost 5-6 pieces of brass out of 700 so far, 2 due to splits at the neck, the rest due to crushing while setting up the dies :redface:
Anytime the gun has failed to go bang, it's because of a mistake I've made, the gun has been flawless so far. I know it isn't very pretty, but it's elegant in it's own simplicity.
 
as always its " beauty in the eye of the beholder"........

from pics and videos I did not like the looks at all.... said I didn't like them, would never own one, blah, blah, blah....... so... what happens...... Glock Demo Day..... bad mistake! ( Thx to Lanz Sports and Silverdale Gun Club for this one!! great idea!! hope you have more of them!!) went to it to see what all the fuss was about.... tried all the models.... loved the feel, the grips, and the way they shot...... was accurate right off the bat!! even more so then my M&P9!!

the result?? I want one of the 21SF's :)

also I learned never believe everything you read till you have tried it for yourself!!! there are lots of opinions, experiances, and comments, but the ultimate decison is yours after you try it for yourself!!

just my 2 cents worth!!!
 
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