What to do when you come across a tree stand?

[hawk-i]

I think in time respectful hunters will have had enough of the "I had my stand here first" crap and just start removing them.....bingo, problem solved!
But then we will have threads headlining ....some a--hole stole my stand when all I wanted to do is to claim a hunting spot by leaving it there because it is to much work, and to noisy to remove it the end of the day.
Happy hunting!

 

[Brian46]

I think in time respectful hunters will have had enough of the "I had my stand here first" crap and just start removing them.....bingo, problem solved!
But then we will have threads headlining ....some a--hole stole my stand when all I wanted to do is to claim a hunting spot by leaving it there because it is to much work, and to noisy to remove it the end of the day.
Happy hunting!

so the "problem is solved" as you say when the respectfull hunters in your eyes become thieves and take other peoples tree stands?

Seems reasonable in your eyes I guess.

Everyone takes a chance hunting crown land that they will be disturbed, if you have ever been disturbed yourself while on a hunt with an animal almost in your sights you know how it feels and will try to avoid that from happening ever again. By the sounds of posts in this thread it appears that there are so called "hunters" out there just looking for an altercation rather than actually hunting.

 

[hawk-i]

so the "problem is solved" as you say when the respectfull hunters in your eyes become thieves and take tree other peoples tree stands?

Seems reasonable in your eyes I guess.

Everyone takes a chance hunting crown land that they will be disturbed, if you have ever been disturbed yourself while on a hunt with an animal almost in your sights you know how it feels and will try to avoid that from happening ever again. By the sounds of posts in this thread it appears that there are so called "hunters" out there looking for an altercation rather than actually hunting.

Not by becoming thiefs my friend, but removal and turning them over to the authorities as abandoned items, culturing the pristine wilderness...you could reclaim them there!
Happy hunting!

 

[btridge]

Again though, picture the scenario.....

Your sitting there, and you have a huge buck walk out in front of you, moments away from a clear shot when........

Tree stand owner comes out of the bush and scares off your buck.

Where I hunt there is lots of crown land, so I would find somewhere else, in hopes that others do the same.

If I find someone camped out right at the bottom of my stand, I'm gonna be pissed.

F it I would probably let off a couple shots as I walked out cause you are a ####! Try and prove I didn't see a deer, and took a shot at it.

AS a ground hunter I find this attitude to be totaly insulting , disrespectful and illegal!!!! What gives you the right to interfer with a legal hunt on crown land? I am a hunter with a dissability that prevents me from using tree stands any more. I do alot of scouting as do many of my fellow ground hunters, we leave no signs or litter to show we were there. We have every right to use that CROWN land that you do, no more or no less. The ONLY thing a tree stand tells me is that someone else MAY be hunting the same area. When I get to the spot I wish to hunt, I use my bino's to check out the area, including the tree stand, to see if their are any hunters or game in the area. If there is another hunter in the area, I quietly exit , leaving the first hunter to the area to enjoy his day. CROWN land IS a case of first there has the RIGHT TO HUNT WITHOUT INTERFERANCE. A tree stand does NOT mean you were there first. RESPECT YOUR FELLOW HUNTER, be prepared to change your hunt plans if needed, if you find a tree stand, LEAVE IT ALONE. Hunting is about getting out and enjoying life ...Dean

 

[hawk-i]

I've been thinking about my personal treestand use....I've been hunting since the early 70's and using treestands from time to time since the early 80's. During this considerable amount of hunting time I've never once left a stand set up on public land over night. I've always removed my stand when I leave for the evening. It only takes a few minutes to set or remove a stand so I don't have a problem with erecting one in the premorning darkness or taking one down at dust. Also in doing so, I've never had a hassle with another hunter about a hunting spot or incurred the loss of a stand....to me, removing my stand shows respect to all other land users and does not infringe or interfere with anyone elses hunt or enjoyment of the great outdoors!
Each to their own I guess!

 

[Brian46]

Not by becoming thiefs my friend, but removal and turning them over to the authorities as abandoned items, culturing the pristine wilderness...you could reclaim them there!
Happy hunting!

So in your eyes you would do the same with other unattended items you find in the woods like atvs, vehicles, hanging poles and any other unattended equipment you come across?

If not I would have to say you are profiling and showing prejudice to tree stands, what item used for hunting is next on your list? Without leaving notice of your actions and instructions of how to recover the property you took I would still call it theft since there is no regulations in my province preventing tree stands from being left over night for a morning hunt.

You can also bet that if the owner of said property comes across you removing his property or sees it in the back of your truck you have just become one of those guys looking for an altercation I just talked about. I don't know about you but to me this is very risky business when you pretty much know everyone is going to be armed.

 

[Brian46]

AS a ground hunter I find this attitude to be totaly insulting , disrespectful and illegal!!!! What gives you the right to interfer with a legal hunt on crown land? I am a hunter with a dissability that prevents me from using tree stands any more. I do alot of scouting as do many of my fellow ground hunters, we leave no signs or litter to show we were there. We have every right to use that CROWN land that you do, no more or no less. The ONLY thing a tree stand tells me is that someone else MAY be hunting the same area. When I get to the spot I wish to hunt, I use my bino's to check out the area, including the tree stand, to see if their are any hunters or game in the area. If there is another hunter in the area, I quietly exit , leaving the first hunter to the area to enjoy his day. CROWN land IS a case of first there has the RIGHT TO HUNT WITHOUT INTERFERANCE. A tree stand does NOT mean you were there first. RESPECT YOUR FELLOW HUNTER, be prepared to change your hunt plans if needed, if you find a tree stand, LEAVE IT ALONE. Hunting is about getting out and enjoying life ...Dean

exactly, well said.

I rarely hunt from a tree stand but have the same attitude as you when hunting from one or the ground.

The areas I will use a stand can really only be hunted in that manner, if someone wants to take my stand they will require climbing gear so their intentions of interfearing were clear if my stand is being used by someone or taken.

 

[relic38]

Lots of opinion here, but I prefer to go with the Free Use Policy from the MNR:
http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/stdprodconsume/groups/lr/@mnr/@crownland/documents/document/mnr_e000078.pdf
In short,
- You can place tree stands and bait stations on crown land
- the only way you can legally deny anyone access to a section of crown land is to obtain "occupational authority" from the MNR. There is a fee and it needs approval from a District Manager. Simply hanging a stand gives you no legal right to that space. it would be virtually impossible to define the 'space' anyway.

However, this isn't about the legalities of crown land usage. Everyone here knows they cannot just walk into crown and stake a claim on it, and hanging a tree stand to that us utterly absurd. No, this is about the moral and social responsibility of hunter respect.
Anyone ever read the back of an electronics product; that FCC warning:

This device complies with Part 15 of the FCC rules. Operation is subject to the following two conditions: (1) this device may not cause harmful interference, and (2) this device must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesired operation.

We as users of public land should do what we can to not interfere with others, but at the same time need to accept that we may get interfered with by others.

 

[Brutus]

Ok so I move on. Now on my way out, I realize that the tree stand owner never did show up. Now I may have given up a sweet spot for nothing.

Sure it's a tree stand on crown land. But did you make any effort to construct it there?
Or spend any money out of your own pocket on building materials or take the time to move everything onto the site?
If the answer in no, then you should already know the answer you should give here.
Perhaps if you did use the treestand and were successful, perhaps, just perhaps you were successful in your hunt, maybe now you owe the fellow who constructed it something? Or do you think otherwise?? Your own private answer will tell you alot about your personality.

I do believe it's called mutual respect.

 

[hawk-i]

So in your eyes you would do the same with other unattended items you find in the woods like atvs, vehicles, hanging poles and any other unattended equipment you come across?

If not I would have to say you are profiling and showing prejudice to tree stands, what item used for hunting is next on your list? Without leaving notice of your actions and instructions of how to recover the property you took I would still call it theft since there is no regulations in my province preventing tree stands from being left over night for a morning hunt.


You can also bet that if the owner of said property comes across you removing his property or sees it in the back of your truck you have just become one of those guys looking for an altercation I just talked about. I don't know about you but to me this is very risky business when you pretty much know everyone is going to be armed.

Brian46, I didn't say I as in Me would remove a treestand, I said eventually respectful hunters will have had enough and just start to remove them....problem solved!
Read what is written and don't add words to someone else comments.
Happy hunting!

 

[bearmaz]

If you leave a tree stand on public property you should expect it to be either used or stolen when you get back. Sad but true, no amount of "that's not right" whining on here will change it. It doesn't give you claim on the area either. It's still public land. There's so much entitlement out there it's unreal.

 

[btridge]

Sure it's a tree stand on crown land. But did you make any effort to construct it there?
Or spend any money out of your own pocket on building materials or take the time to move everything onto the site?
If the answer in no, then you should already know the answer you should give here.
Perhaps if you did use the treestand and were successful, perhaps, just perhaps you were successful in your hunt, maybe now you owe the fellow who constructed it something? Or do you think otherwise?? Your own private answer will tell you alot about your personality.

I do believe it's called mutual respect.

Your RIGHT, it's called mutual respect, if someone else is hunting the site first, they have the RIGHT to do so without interferance, regardless of the tree stand.

 

[Brutus]

If you leave a tree stand on public property you should expect it to be either used or stolen when you get back. Sad but true, no amount of "that's not right" whining on here will change it. It doesn't give you claim on the area either. It's still public land. There's so much entitlement out there it's unreal.

That statement can be turned around as well friend.
Someone who has nothing to do with it's construction may feel equally priveldged to it's use, even though they had zero effort in it's appearance.
I think that too falls into the definition of entitlement.

 

[bearmaz]

That statement can be turned around as well friend.
Someone who has nothing to do with it's construction may feel equally priveldged to it's use, even though they had zero effort in it's appearance.
I think that too falls into the definition of entitlement.

What?

 

[bearmaz]

Here's my point. It's public land. You leave anything there, you can expect it to be used by whoever comes by. If you are using public land, no one has any more right to it than anyone else. Marking your territory doesn't make it your land or spot to hunt. If you are hunting on a public spot where other hunters have placed a stand and they show up after you they do not have more right to it than you nor do you have more right to be there than them. To think otherwise is entitlement.

It would be POLITE to move if you feel you were hunting in someone else's spot, but if you expect someone else to move from public land because you left a stand there is ignorant in itself. Don't like it? Hunt on private property. Then you can hunt in spots that no one else has access.

 

[Brian46]

Here's my point. It's public land. You leave anything there, you can expect it to be used by whoever comes by. If you are using public land, no one has any more right to it than anyone else. Marking your territory doesn't make it your land or spot to hunt. If you are hunting on a public spot where other hunters have placed a stand and they show up after you they do not have more right to it than you nor do you have more right to be there than them. To think otherwise is entitlement.

It would be POLITE to move if you feel you were hunting in someone else's spot, but if you expect someone else to move from public land because you left a stand there is ignorant in itself. Don't like it? Hunt on private property. Then you can hunt in spots that no one else has access.

so how do you hunt? do you never leave anything unattended ever and fully expect it to be gone or used by someone else when you do? for example your geme camera, ATV, truck, camper, tent, hanging pole, camp site, toilet, etc. If you don't then why should someone expect it with only a tree stand?

 

[Brian46]

Brian46, I didn't say I as in Me would remove a treestand, I said eventually respectful hunters will have had enough and just start to remove them....problem solved!
Read what is written and don't add words to someone else comments.
Happy hunting!

that was my point, you call them respectful hunters, for you to give them such a title as "respectful" it makes one think that you support their actions in a good way and may even partake in such actions. Sorry for my mistake if you are actually condemning those actions of what would be considered theft under the letter of the law in my province.

 

[arcticcathonda]

so how do you hunt? do you never leave anything unattended ever and fully expect it to be gone or used by someone else when you do? for example your geme camera, ATV, truck, camper, tent, hanging pole, camp site, toilet, etc. If you don't then why should someone expect it with only a tree stand?

Never left unattended unless I accept the possibility I will loose it! Game cameras especially!

 

[Brian46]

Never left unattended unless I accept the possibility I will loose it! Game cameras especially!

exactly, However the attitude displayed by some here is that they will take, dismantle, destroy, use, and remove someone elses property or condone all the above if done by someone else as long as said property was left unattended on crown land is what puzzles me.

The old saying of "if you wouldn't want something done to you why would you do it to others" is long gone I see.

 

[hawk-i]

that was my point, you call them respectful hunters, for you to give them such a title as "respectful" it makes one think that you support their actions in a good way and may even partake in such actions. Sorry for my mistake if you are actually condemning those actions of what would be considered theft under the letter of the law in my province.

Brian, please read my post #65 on this thread and you'll know what I mean when I say respectful in regards to treestand use. There comes a time when respectful hunters will simply say "enough is enough". Confrontation between hunters in this regard will eventually lead to written legislation because of the attitudes of a few believing they have exclusive rights to public land.
Happy hunting!