What to do when you come across a tree stand?

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If I see a tree stand I usually change course and go somewhere else........sometimes I go on over if it's empty and check the area out. Make a note of where it's at and try to keep my distance in the future. No biggy.


Tree stand shmee stand.....someone getting upset over someone approaching there empty stand and using the area is just silly. Don't like other people using the crown land that is all of ours while your stand is up..go buy some private land, problem solved.


Respect. Can't we all just get along?









From the Wildlife Act (Alberta)

Prohibition of harassment of hunters

47(1) A person shall not interfere with the lawful hunting of wildlife by another person, or with any lawful activity preparatory to such hunting, with the intention of preventing or impeding the hunting or the continuation of the hunting.

(2) A person shall not disturb, or engage in an activity that will tend to disturb, wildlife with the intention of preventing or impeding its being lawfully hunted.

(3) A person shall not disturb another person who is engaged in the lawful hunting of wildlife, or in any lawful activity preparatory to such hunting, with the intention of dissuading that person from hunting or otherwise preventing the hunting or of preventing that person’s enjoyment of the outdoors.
 
In southern western Ontario there are only a few areas of crown land that allow hunting, most of them are less than 100 acres.... Guys that are leaving tree stands up permanently in these small parcels of land are only doing so to keep others away.....Finding private land around here to hunt is hard, buying private land around here is just too expensive, that leaves crown land, the little we have down here needs to be shared.
 
How fn'g entitled do you have to be to think that just because you mark your territory in public land, it's yours. So what... this is exactly what causes problems for hunters. "Hey dude, that's my spot. Get the f out before I move you out". If you want to hunt your spot, get out of bed earlier and get to your spot before anyone else.

This entitlement culture exists on private land as well. I remember when I bought my hunt camp. The first year, I walked the property lines to see if anyone was hunting it. Sure enough, the neighbor set up a tree stand right on the property line facing my property and dumped a bunch of feed on my side. Let's see, he bought the neighbouring property that is just a sliver of mine while I paid much more for a property 6 times it's size, but somehow he felt that he could hunt where he wants because he's been hunting there for a few years. I don't remember the for sale sign saying only I could buy it.
 
After seeing some of the gyppo work that went in to some of the tree stands I found in the Cold Lake area while hunting, most of them I wouldn't stand under, let alone climb in to. Some, not too badly done, though! :) Not legal to leave anything permanently mounted in the woods there, but guys do it anyway.

What would I do if I came across one? Keep on hunting! There, if I thought it was a good place, or elsewhere, if I didn't.

It's PUBLIC land! I am allowed to be there!

Guys that pile a bunch of money and work into PUBLIC land, should put their efforts in to finding a spot far enough off the beaten path, so as to not have to worry too much about 'their' spot being discovered. Or find some private land to put their time and money into, where they will actually have a case for chasing off the interlopers!

And not get too pissy with a fella that manages to find that PUBLIC place, either. Choose a better place next time!

Not YOUR deer/moose/elk/whatever, until you put a tag on it!

'Course, you could always do the #### move of parking your vehicle across the access road to 'claim' the spot, but you run the risk of getting '#### moved' right back, eh. :)

Cheers
Trev
 
If someone gets all territorial that you're in his claimed crown land that he invested time and money into strapping a seat to a tree then take a sh!t in his treestand. We all own the land but if you took the time effort and money to set up your own little hunting spot on public land then you should have known better when some hunter comes walking along. Acting like a tree stand is your watch tower over your own private section of public land is like putting a pot on your head, grabbing a plastic sword and occupying a McDonald's play place kicking all the kids out so you can eat your happy meal in the slide. Some kid's mom is gonna sparta your drunk ass down the slide and stomp your face in front of several cheering families. If you just acted like an adult you wouldn't have these issues.
 
I have hunted both. I usually haul a ground blind so I can set up and tear down each day. However, when I do set up a stand on crown, I expect that it will be available to me. Most times, it is an inconvenient walk so it is usually empty. I also like being in my stand a full hour before legal shooting, not many people out ahead of me. If I came along and found someone in my stand (which is a two-man ladder stand for couple hunting) I would move on. I know it is not my private area. I don't block roads with my truck, I don't mind walking a km or two down a cleaned trail. I have scouted so much territory that there is ALWAYS another place to go. I won't "follow" another hunter done a trail. I just leave. If I came upon an unused stand, I would use it without reservation, esp., if it was the middle of the day, but I would also be willing to leave if the "owner" came along. I also leave my name and phone number on mt ladder stand. Someone could just call me and ask if I plan to use it. Chances are, if the phone doesn't ring above them, I won't be using the stand that day. They can. Although, the guy that used my stand two years ago liked it so much he took it with him.
 
rookie wildcat said:
Although, the guy that used my stand two years ago liked it so much he took it with him.
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Now that right there, is about the best reason I can think of to not leave your stand unattended. Dicks!

Know a couple guys that use the folding ladders that they take with them when they do leave the stand in the trees. Won't stop the turd with a chainsaw, but locks are to keep the honest that way, too.

Too many a-holes stealing stuff for me to want to leave my money hanging on a tree for them. Stands, tree cameras, etc.

Cheers
Trev
 
I found a nice fixed stand a couple weeks ago west of Brantford on public land with some nice looking screw in steps. One of many I've discovered over the years. I'm going to start leaving funny notes on their trees to see if it somehow makes it to a forum somewhere :D

The problem with the last one I discovered is I was scouting new land and found the perfect transition zone with plenty of buck sign and when I found the perfect spot I marked the spot on the GPS and picked a tree. When I turned around I discovered my stand would be about 30 yards from his stand. He'll likely get that buck if he hunts it right...
 
canadian hunter312 said:
I found a nice fixed stand a couple weeks ago west of Brantford on public land with some nice looking screw in steps. One of many I've discovered over the years. I'm going to start leaving funny notes on their trees to see if it somehow makes it to a forum somewhere :D

The problem with the last one I discovered is I was scouting new land and found the perfect transition zone with plenty of buck sign and when I found the perfect spot I marked the spot on the GPS and picked a tree. When I turned around I discovered my stand would be about 30 yards from his stand. He'll likely get that buck if he hunts it right...
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What do you do right? Do you setup in that spot because you're allowed to, or leave because someone might occasionally use the area.

If it were me and I was looking for places in the Southern On area, since there is virtually no public land, I'd just buy a climber and hunt that spot. If he shows up later, he shows up. He can't tell you to leave and neither can you. If he has a problem with you being there remind him its public land and If he wants to hunt out of his stand beside yours he can. Or ask him if he wants to exchange phone numbers so you can work around each others schedules. Either way you really don't have to leave.

The whole situation could be avoided if he didn't leave his stand up on public land.
 
xeon said:
What do you do right? Do you setup in that spot because you're allowed to, or leave because someone might occasionally use the area.

If it were me and I was looking for places in the Southern On area, since there is virtually no public land, I'd just buy a climber and hunt that spot. If he shows up later, he shows up. He can't tell you to leave and neither can you. If he has a problem with you being there remind him its public land and If he wants to hunt out of his stand beside yours he can. Or ask him if he wants to exchange phone numbers so you can work around each others schedules. Either way you really don't have to leave.

The whole situation could be avoided if he didn't leave his stand up on public land.
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It doesn't really bother me much when someone else is setup at a prime area first and I just move on. What's the point in starting a confrontation that would likely result in my tires being slashed? A few years back I gave a trespasser the boot off family land and that resulted in thieves breaking into thier storage trailer and garage while they were away not long after.


No public land? I have a couple maps here for the brantford-woodstock-longpoint area showing over 50 properties available through two different organizations that offer hunting land to the public.
 
canadian hunter312 said:
It doesn't really bother me much when someone else is setup at a prime area first and I just move on. What's the point in starting a confrontation that would likely result in my tires being slashed? A few years back I gave a trespasser the boot off family land and that resulted in thieves breaking into thier storage trailer and garage while they were away not long after.


No public land? I have a couple maps here for the brantford-woodstock-longpoint area showing over 50 properties available through two different organizations that offer hunting land to the public.
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canadian hunter312 said:
It doesn't really bother me much when someone else is setup at a prime area first and I just move on. What's the point in starting a confrontation that would likely result in my tires being slashed? A few years back I gave a trespasser the boot off family land and that resulted in thieves breaking into thier storage trailer and garage while they were away not long after.


No public land? I have a couple maps here for the brantford-woodstock-longpoint area showing over 50 properties available through two different organizations that offer hunting land to the public.
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What if there were a bunch of tree stands on the few areas that were good on the property? Are you just going to pack up and leave because someone put out a few stands in October and has hunted out of them once or twice for a couple weekends? Its nice of you to move on, but if they aren't utilizing a prime area there's no reason for you not to either.

Confronting people on public land vs private land are two different things. Regardless how they might retaliate, if they're on you're property and you don't want them there, get them off. Follow them to their vehicle and write down their licence plate and let them see that you're doing that. This way if they get pissed off and want to rob you they might think twice as they know that you know who they are. With any situation, if you approach people in a professional manor and be polite they're usually not going to do anything, if you yell at them and tell them to get in their car before you call the cops, they're going to leave with a bit of a grudge.

The local conservation authorities do have many small properties you can hunt on yes. For the population as large as Southern Ontario, there isn't much public land though no. And for the very large hunting population of Southern Ontario that doesn't have land to call their own, some of the places are pretty chaotic during different hunting seasons. The LPRCA property near mine had 6 cars in front of it last year an hour before sunrise on opening morning for the controlled hunt for example. Also a lot of the properties have a lot of joggers, dog walkers, cyclists, horseback riders, ATVers, ect going through them during the day, so with small parcels of land it easily pushes off anything in them. So yes you're right that there is public land, just most of the blocks from my experience seem like they're either pounded or have a very high use for other recreational values. In my eyes that's not ideal for quality deer hunting.
 
For all the treestands that I've seen while hunting it sure is rare to see someone actually in one. Some of them are in spots so obvious that you could pick that area driving past at 60 mph. It could be that they are left over from archery season, which would make the choice of location somewhat less retarded.
 
trevj said:
Now that right there, is about the best reason I can think of to not leave your stand unattended. Dicks!

Know a couple guys that use the folding ladders that they take with them when they do leave the stand in the trees. Won't stop the turd with a chainsaw, but locks are to keep the honest that way, too.

Too many a-holes stealing stuff for me to want to leave my money hanging on a tree for them. Stands, tree cameras, etc.

Cheers
Trev
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Yeah, the tree was gone, too. Amazingly, the trees I cut to clear my shooting lanes and stacked in 4' lengths nearby, were still there, so, I guess they weren't looking for firewood...
 
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