What's keeping you out of Service Rifle?

In answer to a question asked previously, here is the course of fire for the Service Rifle matches at CHAS.

Course of fire for Service Rifle match
300m
5 rounds sitting, 3 minutes
5 rounds sitting snap, 1 round for each 5 second exposure
5 rounds Prone, 3 minutes
5 rounds Prone snap, 1 round for each 5 second exposure
200m
10 rounds prone rapid in 30 seconds, (2 magazines)
5 rounds prone snap, 1 round for each 3 seconds exposure
5 rounds sitting snap, 1 round for each 3 second exposure

The NRA Large Bore matches both 200m and 300m are as follows:

10 rnds standing 10 min,
10 rnds kneeling 10 min,
10 rnds sitting 1 min
10 rnds prone 1 min

Sniper rifles matches....you get the course of fire the morning of the match.

Here are our dates once again:

Canadian Historical Arms Society
Service Rifle and Pistol League
2016

13 March Service Rifle
10 April Service Rifle
08 May Service Rifle/Service Pistol
12 June Service Rifle/Service Pistol
10 July Service Rifle/Service Pistol
14 August NRA Larger Bore 200m/300m
11 September Sniper Rifle/Service Pistol
09 October NRA Large Bore 200m/300m/500m
13 November Sniper Rifle

All Matches begin at 11:30hrs, match fee $5.00 for C.H.A.S. Gun Club Members
Non members pay an additional $ 20.00 day pass
For more information please email srpl4gm@gmail.com
Phone 780-885 9845

Service Rifle and NRA Large Bore rifle = any military rifle (or civilian version) from any country from any time period.
(Optics up to a max of 4 power magnification allowed)
Service pistol = any military pistol revolver (or civilian copy) from any time period from any country
Sniper Rifle = any rifle any sight within caliber restrictions of the range
 
My issue for now is deciding on the scope/optic.

I had my heart set on one, but then was turned onto something else.

Decisions.
 
Vortex has great options. 1-6 would not be my ideal for SR but certainly very workable.

If I could pick my perfect, something in 2.5-10x for SR AND CQB.

Keep in mind I run a fixed 3x for both and always get beat by soldiers shooting C79s.

Skill is more important than gear. That's the great thing about Service Conditions, it develops the shooter.
 
The US CMP Service Rifle rules make a great deal of sense to me.

Optical Sights For Service Rifles. For several years, the CMP has recognized that optical sights are the wave of the future for Service Rifle shooting. Military recruits today do all of their training with optical sighted rifles. Service Rifle rules have traditionally tried to keep abreast of military rifle and training developments so opening Service Rifle shooting to optical sights became an inevitable change. The 2016 rules will, for the first time, permit M16/AR15-type rifles to have optical sights with a maximum magnification of 4.5X. Legal scopes can be fixed power or variable, but the maximum power of variable scopes may not exceed 4.5X. Scopes will have to be manufactured with a maximum 4.5X magnification and have an objective lens no larger than 34 mm. There will not be a separate class for scope-sighted rifles. Instead, competitors will have a choice of using either a scope-sighted rifle that weighs no more than 11.5 pounds or a metallic sighted rifle that will continue to have no weight limit.
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Then again I like their goals
The big picture CMP mission derives from a federal law that says the primary CMP functions are to “instruct citizens in marksmanship,” “promote practice” and “conduct competitions.” This mission is defined by three key priorities, 1) participation, 2) marksmanship and 3) competition.
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far more than the DCRAs apparent goal of supporting TR.
 
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Is the DCRA council set up like the ones in some of the PRAs where it's the council who decides who gets onto it. Where it can keep itself stacked full of shooters of a certain discipline to ensure that discipline can always decide the direction?
 
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Technically yes, but there are enough progressive people involved now that it's not really run that way. Hell, I was the first F-Class guy to be asked and now there are several of us, including some chosen in place of known TR shooters. There SHOULD be someone who is active in the SR community on the council, but having someone step forward would be a pretty significant first step. There is a nomination process that can be followed, or they will take nominations from the floor at the AGM, which is normally held in March. The only catch is that the nominee needs to be a full member of the DCRA, which the vast majority of SR shooters are not.
 
If you'd take this on I would be quite happy to nominate you. I'm not certain that attendance is mandatory, but at least SR would (rightly) have a voice there. PM me if you're seriously considering this.
 
Gunnerlove said:
The US CMP Service Rifle rules make a great deal of sense to me.
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I could live with those rules. I'd have to swap out scopes, but realistically I only use my scope at greater than 4.5x at 400 and 500, so that's 2 stages of 1 match, and when I started in to SR, I was running a 1-4 Razor HD anyway...
 
I think the whole " though shalt not have a scope with a max power of more than 4.5x" is fairly limiting
What if somebody is interested in trying SR but they have one of the fairly popular 1-6, or the good old 3x9? Do you say "sure, come on out.....after you drop some coin on a different, lower powered optic"

Seems like a good way to kill interest.
 
Bolivar said:
I think the whole " though shalt not have a scope with a max power of more than 4.5x" is fairly limiting
What if somebody is interested in trying SR but they have one of the fairly popular 1-6, or the good old 3x9? Do you say "sure, come on out.....after you drop some coin on a different, lower powered optic"

Seems like a good way to kill interest.
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I agree with that. It is unnecessary.

The COF should drive the equipment choice. If people are finding advantages in using a 16X power, why not?

If the people in charge of the COF do not want people to use 16X, change the COF to reflect the doctrine.
 
^^This!

Superfluous rules are lame! CoF that reflects real conditions will drive shooters to the "proper" equipment and will also drive equipment development. CMP rules were a couple of decades behind what was actually being used and when equipment changes again, it will take them a couple of decades to updated their rules again. Their CoF is still archaic.
 
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