6-24 for me. Will eventually get myself a spotting scope. However for 200 I'm good. Anything beyond that and it's a walk or drive down to the targets.
Whats your opinion on muzzle brakes?
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6-24 for me. Will eventually get myself a spotting scope. However for 200 I'm good. Anything beyond that and it's a walk or drive down to the targets.
Oh lowered yourself There!
You have never had to correct autocorrect then eh?
WOW........I haven't read every post here but there are definitely some very strong opinions. I have a Steyr HS 50 with the tank style muzzle brake and I would not shoot it within 50 ft of anybody else. The concussion is evil and is very disconcerting even for the shooter. Whitehorse Rifle and Pistol Club banned 50s with brakes and I can understand why........This is by far the most unpleasant rifle to be any where near when firing it even the shooter gets blasted, no recoil to speak of but the shock wave from the brake is almost unbearable..........I love it but I would never want to be at a bench next to it, or the next one over, or the next one over...................
Excellent post. You realize just how powerful the concussive wave is, and you are considerate enough not to subject other range members to that concussive wave. As to your club banning brakes, obviously there were a few much less considerate range members that behaved in a manner that resulted in the executive banning brakes. In the end, it all comes down to whether the members can be trusted to use brakes in a considerate and responsible manner. Some people are willing to work with the other range members by choosing a bench at the end with nobody next to them, or by taking turns shooting, while other people have zero consideration for other shooters, which leads to bans.
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Are you for real? Are you actually reading what I and others ARE typing?
Who said anything about banning? Can you please quote me on that?
The twist and plot changes here carry the drama of a teenage girl.
I say be considerate, you say I am asking for a ban? WTF?
Here is a little tid bit, by NOT being respectful of others is a very good way to get things banned at your club.
I can also walk down the street with a rifle shouldered and carry it legally(unloaded), smartest thing to do, not really but can sure cause a commotion.
As for those referring to the slap reference, it is a comparison of effect , like come on people already.
Again, I sure am glad I have my gravel pit.
Who said anything about banning? Can you please quote me on that?
The twist and plot changes here carry the drama of a teenage girl.
I say be considerate, you say I am asking for a ban? WTF?
Here is a little tid bit, by NOT being respectful of others is a very good way to get things banned at your club.
I can also walk down the street with a rifle shouldered and carry it legally(unloaded), smartest thing to do, not really but can sure cause a commotion.
As for those referring to the slap reference, it is a comparison of effect , like come on people already.
Again, I sure am glad I have my gravel pit.
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One thing is for certain, posts in this thread are in direct correlation to skull thickness measurements and composition.
Wow, this thread went down hill fast.
Brian46, I don't think he's advocating violence. It's a funny example...I agree. Worded weird perhaps as well.
I don't have to deal with Brakes...I live in the country
To me they seem like a way to handle a rifle that's beyond what you can comfortably shoot. Perhaps a 50 is fun...I've never had the desire to shoot something that loud with huge recoil. They seem a bit beyond sensible to me, but have fun with them.
Some guys like really loud Harleys and piped out diesels too...there comes a point where they are obnoxious.
Each person's point is different, hence our squabbling.
And the 'injury card' doesn't cut hay with me, btw. Bad luck or bad choices is what is the front story on the " Well, I have a bad shoulder "
That dog don't hunt IMO. Get a smaller gun.
Are loud brakes like those annoying folks with the super bright blue headlights? You squint a bit, mumble something about "...annoying ####..." and get back to driving? Aircraft powerful lights are great for backroads...obnoxious as hell on the highway.
I suppose if a buddy said " Let's go to the range and you can try my 50 BMG !" I'd likely rely "Let's go early or late...they are pretty loud for folks around them "
Problem solved...in my world. This won't fly with some folks...not a big deal in my world.
I live in the country
Stay safe
The 50 is just another hunting rifle for me.
50 cal rifles aren't really rapid fire guns. It's easy enough to warn other shooters. If there are other shooters and I want to fire a few shots I try to get in and shoot and get out, let them get back to it. Most people are intrigued anyway.
When I want to shoot quite a few I will go when the range is not busy.
A little bit of respect is all that's needed, it's not that hard.
When I want to shoot quite a few I will go when the range is not busy.
A little bit of respect is all that's needed, it's not that hard.
It appears you have zero consideration for other shooters by your post requiring them because of muzzle device to follow a separate set of rules and sit at the end or be banned.
BTW, the factory steyr brake is far more abusive to everyone including the shooter than it needs to be.
Is the M2 classed as a rifle? Does anyone here have one ?
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Are they in current production and Is there a dealer that deals with them or are they just where you find them?
I've been thinking about a belt fed semi for awhile. A smaller one would probably make more sense but a m2 would sure be something
Are they in current production and Is there a dealer that deals with them or are they just where you find them?
I've been thinking about a belt fed semi for awhile. A smaller one would probably make more sense but a m2 would sure be something
TNW made them, their current productions have been ruled prohib because they are converted autos vs the brand new unassembled parts kits used many years ago.
Agree consideration for other shooters always delivers a better experience.
I inform those around me of possible muzzle blast before firing. Some are still freaked out; other gives me the that's it grin.
Problem is my area is a Lieberal/NDP stronghold the need for consideration is how the ANTIs always get a foothold and before you know it all the local ranges are closed down. Totally understand the NO COMPROMISE camp dealing with these lefties.
See much of the conflict comes from the different areas, different needs.
Urban folks and the rural folks have different rules.
Hunters and Precision shooters have different needs.
Pretty clear where folks live and their type of shooting by their comments.
I inform those around me of possible muzzle blast before firing. Some are still freaked out; other gives me the that's it grin.
Problem is my area is a Lieberal/NDP stronghold the need for consideration is how the ANTIs always get a foothold and before you know it all the local ranges are closed down. Totally understand the NO COMPROMISE camp dealing with these lefties.
See much of the conflict comes from the different areas, different needs.
Urban folks and the rural folks have different rules.
Hunters and Precision shooters have different needs.
Pretty clear where folks live and their type of shooting by their comments.
When I posted about rules, they were the range rules voted on and implemented by the executive of the range which at the time consisted of seven members. The rules were implemented to ensure a safe and enjoyable experience for our 2500 members, and if a few people were not happy with the rules, they were free to go elsewhere. As for banning things, we did ban tannerite, but muzzle brakes were not banned, because for the most part, the members showed consideration for other shooters, and as for the self entitled people that showed no consideration for others, their memberships were terminated. Most people are pretty reasonable, but some are so stupid, that they were propping steel plates up on the berms, or placing targets on top of the berms, and one individual was so clueless, that he posted a video on facebook of his activities with his AR-15 in one of our handgun bays. As posted previously, the executive was elected to manage the range for 2500 members, and we weren't about to let a few individuals ruin the experience for the rest. Yes we had some people whining and complaining, and coincidentally, those people never volunteered to accept any positions within the club, and they were always to busy to help out when the club needed some volunteer labor for a day. Don't tell me that you are too busy to help out, if you show up to shoot, on a scheduled range clean up day, and then as soon as you realize that you can't shoot until the work is done, you get back into your vehicle and leave.
We invited both our MP and MLA to the range, and had them shooting trap/skeet and handguns for a morning. They used the visit as PR for their campaigns and we received ,multiple government grants for range improvements, each of which were six figure amounts.
