Where did all the Milsurps go ???
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Milsurps are going to the same place they always have, to collectors with deeper pockets than yours. Actually, that's true of all collectibles - if you see something you want; you better buy it then and there, because when you come back to get it it will be gone.
This is true to a point yes but unfortunately the only reason prices are so high is because of those people with deeper pockets it's not like people are out there destroying them to increase the value or getting harder to find like cars cause people have crashed them. I under stand what your saying but there are various grades for all collectibles sadly it just seems like there arent any on the shelves anymore.
Its not rude. It's the facts. Even 5 years ago the $300 and under milsurps were a limited group - sks, Mosin, Enfields (sporters only, not full wood), K31, svt40... Now, the sks is literally the ONLY milsurp under $300 (unless you count sporter Enfields and carcanos).
$300usd on gun broker is not a reasonable comparison for two reasons - first is exchange rate, that's $400cad, second is the fact that they are competely separate markets. Of course, if the guns are so much cheaper on gun broker you could always buy one there and get it shipped here by IRunGuns...
I suggest you do a bit of reading on how supply and demand works. You'll be far less confused about the dynamic world of milsurp pricing once you've learned some basic economics.
Someone seems salty....yeah but your telling me youd buy a mauser for 1500 and shoot it at the range in the rain in winter in the snow and then feel good about it. I know basic economics and I also know getting upset over nothing online is pretty petty.
I don’t think he was saying anything about shooting or not shooting. My cheapest milsurp is an enfield revolver I got for $300 my most expensive a $1200 East German k98. I shoot them all, but don’t abuse them. I don’t see a point owning guns I can’t shoot. What he is getting at is if you wanna play you gotta pay. Many factors have influenced milsurp pricing, media getting people interested (Garand prices skyrocketed shortly after Band of Brothers came out), dwindling supply (collector hoarding and damage to existing stock, bubba), market demand (why carcanos are cheap and others are not).
The days of $300 milsurps are long gone except for a select few
The days of $300 milsurps are long gone except for a select few
Im not at all upset but thanks.
$1500 isn't expensive for most people - lots of new rifles cost far more than that and people are willing to beat the piss out of them without a second thought. I'm not a collector, any milsurp I buy regardless of price is getting shot. I only WISH I had the funds to buy $1500 mausers and such.
Simply put, this isn't the 60s, milsurps are not a poor man's playground anymore. You're competing with people with deep pockets for items that have a finite supply, and as the supply continues to decrease the prices will continue to climb (again, basic economics). That's why I only have an SKS and Enfield sporter in my locker.
And if you truly had a good grasp of basic microeconomics, this thread wouldn't even exist. Just sayin'.
Yah and I understand that to a point but even finding milsurps in quantity is impossible. I use to like going down to a shop and being able to choose between 10 to 15 now u go to a shop they say hey I got a great deal on this Chinese sks 
That's very fair and I know I have an sks and mosin but like I'd feel like I'd rather bag on a gun I can go replace at anytime cause they come out every year then buying a milsurp then depreciation its value buy using it cause I'll be honest things get bumped and banged
Yah and I understand that to a point but even finding milsurps in quantity is impossible. I use to like going down to a shop and being able to choose between 10 to 15 now u go to a shop they say hey I got a great deal on this Chinese sks
And that would be that supply thing I keep mentioning in action...
Lol I've read it man I just dont know how the states vs canada have like 1p times the amount we do guess not as big as a demand out here vs there since firearm culture is huge in the states but makes finding anything pretty slim without it being over inflated. I'm gonna go cry now with my m1 sks and mosin
True I just have a soft spot for firearms of combat
From what I can see of your later posts, you're looking to pick up what you're looking for at prices from over a decade back.
Likely not going to happen unless the bottom completely drops out of the economy. You're list contains some of the most sought after models/types. What are you expecting. Even most of the junker grade have been squirreled away in someone's safe, simply because there really isn't anything better available.
Likely not going to happen unless the bottom completely drops out of the economy. You're list contains some of the most sought after models/types. What are you expecting. Even most of the junker grade have been squirreled away in someone's safe, simply because there really isn't anything better available.
I waited to long to get some of the Milsurps that I wanted
MAS 36 was $1400, MAS 49/56 was $2600 (ouch that one hurt!)
Even an M39 Mosin is 1200 bucks now, garands are 2k
and those arent collector grade rifles by any means
Ya it sucks but what do you do? If you want to play with these old girls you gotta pay and the value of them continues to go up
I will say that the last 4-5 years the prices really got out of hand, some rifles easily doubled or tripled in cost, but that’s what happens when demand is greater then supply
MAS 36 was $1400, MAS 49/56 was $2600 (ouch that one hurt!)
Even an M39 Mosin is 1200 bucks now, garands are 2k
and those arent collector grade rifles by any means
Ya it sucks but what do you do? If you want to play with these old girls you gotta pay and the value of them continues to go up
I will say that the last 4-5 years the prices really got out of hand, some rifles easily doubled or tripled in cost, but that’s what happens when demand is greater then supply
4 years ago isn't now...
I've been away from the milsurp market for awhile and went for a look around the other day, first thought was Wow the prices are on the way up (K31 especially). But after just a moment of thought this made sense for all the reasons others have posted above several times.
This is the part where you reply and tell us the same thing again about how the milsurp market isn't what it used to be... well no sh!t, things change, try to keep up.
Edit to add: I'm not trying to be rude but you don't seem to be understanding the reasons that the market is moving in the direction it is.
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No one said 4 years ago is now....you guys are to much literally
I'm just saying they shouldn't be the prices they are for what they are supply and demand or not are you gonna go buy a 1999 civic for 30 grand or are you gonna buy the 2020 for 30 grand. Theres a limit to value one day the sks will be 2500 and ull be telling me it's worth that money no it's not sure you have to pay to play. I bouhhtnmy m1 for 1600 could I sell it for more yah probably would I mean I could but then I'm just adding to the inflation of something that isnt worth that. The problem is people controlling the market not the value in the firearm.
I'm just saying they shouldn't be the prices they are for what they are supply and demand or not are you gonna go buy a 1999 civic for 30 grand or are you gonna buy the 2020 for 30 grand. Theres a limit to value one day the sks will be 2500 and ull be telling me it's worth that money no it's not sure you have to pay to play. I bouhhtnmy m1 for 1600 could I sell it for more yah probably would I mean I could but then I'm just adding to the inflation of something that isnt worth that. The problem is people controlling the market not the value in the firearm.
We’re talking about a market of desirable items that are no longer in production, this is the most prime example of the market price being a direct resemblance of the supply and demand.
If there was a enough demand for a 1999 civic the price would reflect that.
This has nothing to do with what something is “worth” to you.
I’m neither for or against the prices of milsurps rising, I do however have a firm grasp that either way it is what it is.
