The police chiefs association has said new bans do nothing to stop criminals. The chief of toronto police has spoken, and tweeted abiut our weak on criminal laws. Maybe our gun orgs should become one voice, and lobbby all our police chiefs to not uphold any new gun laws. Why not work with the police. A law enacted but not enforced is not a law. That would shove $h£t right up Black face and Bliar A$$. I also believe the police might see the logic in actually working with us on this one.
Where is this headed?
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I hear what you are saying, but I doubt the police would "work with us" per say. I doubt you will find any cops willing to give up their pension and whatever perks etc come with being a cop. Cops are people too, with families to feed..being a cop will keep a family fed for many years, and provide a very nice pension after 20+ yrs of service I am sure.
CdnCombatMedic
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Yup I’m not losing my job or my ability to take care of my family for gun ownership. Frankly not worth it. I’m anxiously waiting to see what local police involvement these bans will require. There is barely enough LEO for calls for service at many services. Proactive policing like RIDE programs are few and far in between. Time will tell. There is too much speculation and not enough facts at this point.
extrasauce
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- Somewhere in Surrey
If the liberals were even half as concerned about public safety as they claim to be, then they would be going after root causes instead of the low hanging fruit that is gun owners. The real danger to Canada, the US, and other western civilizations has zero to do with firearms and everything to do with dangerous ideologies that are incompatible with an effective modern society. For example, the Montreal Massacre, the Toronto Van Attacks, and the brutal rape and murder of a young child in Burnaby, BC all have one thing in common and it isn't firearms. Every one of the perpetrators in the fore mentioned examples are individuals whose minds have been programmed through years of propaganda from an outdated and idiotic ideology. People like this will always find a way to harm those they deem as lower caste, regardless of whatever ridiculous laws the liberals may force upon hardworking honest Canadians who are just trying to live the best life they can given the circumstances of an ever changing world. If the liberals truly cared about public safety, then they would be targeting these fanatical individuals rather than the law abiding citizens that built and maintain this, once, great nation of ours. But in typical liberal mindset, they will do what they do for the "likes", root cause be damned.
The only thing that will save this nation or any nation is:2 Chronicles 7:14. Our nation is falling apart, this is a symptom of a greater problem. We only see a glimpse of the reality around us, most Canadians are too interested in comfort than any sliver of truth. Hence we are where we are.
Again just my opinion, so don’t get all nasty on my ass. Internal decay and division is typical prior to internal collapse as denoted in history of any nation or empire, or Internet forum. Look how fast people jump on each other in this community and you expect respect from “outsiders” and the government?
Again just my opinion.
We all have the right to one. We may cordially agree or disagree but we ourselves will not stand if we attack and devour each other.
The fact is people’s hearts have to change. No matter if it’s the politics of gun control, immigration, faith or crime or the opioid crisis.
What is seen with this society is weakness and decay in which elected officials choose the quick fix. Blame guns. Blame gangs. Blame religion. Blame the right. Blame the left. Blame the Russians. Blame Trump. Blame “them”! But never ever blame myself for complacency and selfish intent. I believe our leaders represent the people who have nothing more than self intent on their minds. This is not always been so.
Say what you want about Justin’s father and his political leanings. But people loved him as a leader for having fortitude and standing up all Canadians in time of crisis. I lived in Quebec City during the FLQ crisis and even as a child remember it well.
It was a different time then. People we proud to be Canadian. There was less scandal more integrity. Canada was respected. You won’t find Pierre Elliot talking about the POTUS in a gossip session with other world leaders like a bunch of school girls. Justified or not but there was respect.
Yes we are here because of our forefathers but we soon forget what the foundation of Canada was built on. It’s written on the Peace Tower.
Look it up.
Again my opinion.
im with you. ONE ORG or nothing. - This is the TSN Turning point right here my dudes. All this talk of working together - Lets see the orgs put their (our) money where their mouths are.
"We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately."
Benjamin Franklin
Milanczar
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Yes and it is also therefore high time we no longer tolerate police using our ranges.
This comes up every range meeting and gets more and more support. There is no place for them and they are always unwelcome thanks to their behavour.
Always unfriendly giving everyone stink eye. Unsocial, non responsive, ignore greetings, ignore RO, don't sign in, dont' bother with ID when off duty.
They do not clean up. Club rules demand it. They ignore it.
Well we can start putting a stop to that. Also would allow new members to join as currently there is full capacity.
They just do not and should not belong to the community.
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CdnCombatMedic
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
You do realize many police chiefs have been speaking out against the bans. Do you realize the police did not enact this legislation? There are tons of cops who are active participants in the shooting sports who are complete opposite of what you described. Maybe your undertone shows when you are interacting with them? I guess we should lump all the problem firearms owners with the good ones since that is exactly what you are doing with police.
TheMerlin
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If it were up to me I wouldn’t stop at banning them from our ranges...I’d tell them to turn in their guns too.
1) Statistics show they don’t need them as they don’t even make the top 10 list in dangerous jobs
2) They lose their firearms at a rate far higher than civilians showing they don’t take the responsibility seriously
3) They represent a government that has self admitted to being genocidal
4) If I am not to be trusted, then I see no reason why cops or other government officials should be
Don’t like what I’ve said? Tough. IDGAF
1) Statistics show they don’t need them as they don’t even make the top 10 list in dangerous jobs
2) They lose their firearms at a rate far higher than civilians showing they don’t take the responsibility seriously
3) They represent a government that has self admitted to being genocidal
4) If I am not to be trusted, then I see no reason why cops or other government officials should be
Don’t like what I’ve said? Tough. IDGAF
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scout_289
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Convene a think tank of selected individuals who would be at the table to do more than argue about the best preservative to bury guns in and how to deal with a criminal charge for refusal to hand over a prohibited weapon. The objective would be to develop realistic short and long range plans to cope with this stupidity while activating our entire community in one cohesive unit.
You folks at Wolverine were way ahead with your charity raffles in support of good causes which regrettably failed to ignite our community. Had it or a similar concept taken off and grown over the past 13 years we would have had an additional and mighty tool to change the focus from scary guns to the people that our community actually represents.
A blueprint FWIW. Too late for this round but maybe worthwhile in future to stop and reverse the downward spiral. One additional tool above and beyond what we use right now.
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...nge-we-must-constructive-criticism-is-welcome
Last time I drove through Virden (Nov this year) I was looking for your place but was on a tight schedule so I had to abandon the search. I wanted to talk.
You and the CSAAA would need money for any initiative. Maybe open the association up to associate memberships with possibly some token discounts as incentives for members.
Also, the retailers should be encouraged to be the point people for handouts or other methods of making non members aware of the dangers ahead. Yes, there are risks because there are gun unfriendly jurisdictions but the risk of a lack of communication with everyone who buys ammo is greater.
Good luck!
scout_289
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
scout_289
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
The CCFR is trying to break out and so is the CSAAA, at least that what it looks like.
In the case of the CSSA and NFA both show little interest in substantive changes and that raises my suspicion that they have succumbed to a conflict of interest.
If the gun file is successfully addressed then no more members and donations. We are not known as a proactive and spendy lot now are we.
In the case of the CSSA and NFA both show little interest in substantive changes and that raises my suspicion that they have succumbed to a conflict of interest.
If the gun file is successfully addressed then no more members and donations. We are not known as a proactive and spendy lot now are we.
Mr Bear
Member
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- The Hammer
Power Bench is correct ...
Thanks for your post, Power Bench. The credo for Canada is " HE (referring to GOD) shall have Dominion from Sea to Sea ". That is what our forefathers intended for all of us. GOD is still supreme over Canada, but HE will let us go as far down into darkness as we let ourselves (and Canada isn't in decline, we are in a nosedive.) Slagging our politicians or each other will lead to nothing positive. GOD answers prayer and we don't have to be on some special level for HIM to hear us, in church, synagogue, mall, car or home, doesn't matter, just do it. I applaud the excellent work that our gun rights organizations do for all of us and Canada as a whole. But when nothing seems to turn the tide, start praying ... HE won't be offended.
I regularly tell GOD what I think of my enemies and then forgive them, leaving the result up to HIM. Targeted hits and home breakins have become the norm here in Hamilton (it isn't just the big cities anymore). Put the Colt on the nightstand, say my prayers, then go to sleep.
HE answers macho toughguys or Oscar Wee Wee's, doesn't matter, amen amen.
Thanks for your post, Power Bench. The credo for Canada is " HE (referring to GOD) shall have Dominion from Sea to Sea ". That is what our forefathers intended for all of us. GOD is still supreme over Canada, but HE will let us go as far down into darkness as we let ourselves (and Canada isn't in decline, we are in a nosedive.) Slagging our politicians or each other will lead to nothing positive. GOD answers prayer and we don't have to be on some special level for HIM to hear us, in church, synagogue, mall, car or home, doesn't matter, just do it. I applaud the excellent work that our gun rights organizations do for all of us and Canada as a whole. But when nothing seems to turn the tide, start praying ... HE won't be offended.
I regularly tell GOD what I think of my enemies and then forgive them, leaving the result up to HIM. Targeted hits and home breakins have become the norm here in Hamilton (it isn't just the big cities anymore). Put the Colt on the nightstand, say my prayers, then go to sleep.
HE answers macho toughguys or Oscar Wee Wee's, doesn't matter, amen amen.
Loosethoughts
CGN Regular
- Location
- GTA
Right? The LORD is no respecter of persons. God keep our land glorious and free!
+2 guys thanks for speaking up.
The Apocalypse isn’t about zombies or prepping, it’s the “How to” book, how the Lamb (who we sing about and give gifts) sits on His Throne and Judges the nations.
The Four Horseman are angels who He sends forth, not Trump and certainly not Trudeau whose in power.
We accept the cushy fluffy lovey dovey part of Christmas and forget about He who was born in the manager, it is He who keeps a “list” ,not Santa, actually a book called the Book of Life. Forget the registry or RCMP, nothing escapes from His Sight.
Canada was founded by missionaries and settlers who were looking for a new hope and a new land. Any rights we have are based on faith, justice and freedom. When you take away one , the house collapses. They upheld the practice of protecting orphans, immigrants and the poor. Hospitals and healthcare was built on that. Everyone gave and sacrificed.
Today every echelon of society is corrupted,people are not stupid, they do not trust the once trusted institutions. Church, state, banks have lost our respect.
People are disillusioned, disenchanted ,withdrawn and defensive to point of aggressive.
Try to cross the parking lot at Walmart today and be prepared to be treated with Holiday cheer road rage.
Amidst the darkness there is Light. You won’t find it under the tree or on tv or Cabelas.
Read John 1. It’s speaks of the Light.
This is not proselytizing you can keep your faith or lack of it. I respect you even if your an atheist. But believe “something “. People are lukewarm.
And that’s the problem that frustrates, people are so wishy-washy flimsy they forget what it takes to stand for anything. The gun grab is one of the quick fixes that’s an easy sell.
The Apocalypse isn’t about zombies or prepping, it’s the “How to” book, how the Lamb (who we sing about and give gifts) sits on His Throne and Judges the nations.
The Four Horseman are angels who He sends forth, not Trump and certainly not Trudeau whose in power.
We accept the cushy fluffy lovey dovey part of Christmas and forget about He who was born in the manager, it is He who keeps a “list” ,not Santa, actually a book called the Book of Life. Forget the registry or RCMP, nothing escapes from His Sight.
Canada was founded by missionaries and settlers who were looking for a new hope and a new land. Any rights we have are based on faith, justice and freedom. When you take away one , the house collapses. They upheld the practice of protecting orphans, immigrants and the poor. Hospitals and healthcare was built on that. Everyone gave and sacrificed.
Today every echelon of society is corrupted,people are not stupid, they do not trust the once trusted institutions. Church, state, banks have lost our respect.
People are disillusioned, disenchanted ,withdrawn and defensive to point of aggressive.
Try to cross the parking lot at Walmart today and be prepared to be treated with Holiday cheer road rage.
Amidst the darkness there is Light. You won’t find it under the tree or on tv or Cabelas.
Read John 1. It’s speaks of the Light.
This is not proselytizing you can keep your faith or lack of it. I respect you even if your an atheist. But believe “something “. People are lukewarm.
And that’s the problem that frustrates, people are so wishy-washy flimsy they forget what it takes to stand for anything. The gun grab is one of the quick fixes that’s an easy sell.
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What's the first rule of fight club?
That being said, it's time to batten down the hatch and resist evil with all your heart, mind, soul and spirit!
https://twitter.com/CanadaSpecialA1/status/1204012790408720384
It's far past time to bring the hammer down on these criminals that are ruling over us!
That being said, it's time to batten down the hatch and resist evil with all your heart, mind, soul and spirit!
https://twitter.com/CanadaSpecialA1/status/1204012790408720384
It's far past time to bring the hammer down on these criminals that are ruling over us!
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Stand up
I really feel for the guys who own and use theses firearm. The government is trying to do this as it is an easy sell to the uninformed. My country just went through this and we didn’t even get a say. There Gone now. Next will be our hunting rifle as they will be called high power sniper rifles. People need to wake up and think if we spent this money on preventing crime rather than removing things form law abiding citizens who get a police check everyday to see if they are fit to own firearms. Firearm owners need to stick together and put pressure on the local mps.
I really feel for the guys who own and use theses firearm. The government is trying to do this as it is an easy sell to the uninformed. My country just went through this and we didn’t even get a say. There Gone now. Next will be our hunting rifle as they will be called high power sniper rifles. People need to wake up and think if we spent this money on preventing crime rather than removing things form law abiding citizens who get a police check everyday to see if they are fit to own firearms. Firearm owners need to stick together and put pressure on the local mps.
If they go the way NZ did you will not be able to keep any significant part of a banned firearm. So if the AR style rifle is banned you must turn in the complete unit, upper included. You will also have to turn in any significant part, such as spare bolt, bolt carrier, trigger parts etc. ad Infinitum ad Nauseam.
Also the poster who said there will be other firearms not just the AR is correct. Billy boy always uses the words "weapon" and "criteria" when he talks about banning. So it could go on a point system.
Pistol grip ? point, flash eliminator ? point, bayonet attachment ? point, detachable mag ? point, mag capacity as in the DP12 shot gun ? point, semi-auto ? point and when you cut to the chase, government just does not like it ??? points.
Just think back aways and you will remember the govmint talking about banning hand guns. Billy boy went on a tour and said he found many good people who owned handguns and therefore they would not ban them. This is a classic tactic that has been used before. The handgun people breath a big sigh of relief and the divide and conquer tactic is about to work again. I have been impacted by every firearm purge since 1977.
In parting whatever you think might go on the list, double it and you might be close.
groundskeeper willy
CGN Regular
- Location
- Alberta
Wheres it all headed?
My prediction is outright ban/forces buy back of every semi auto long arm from cheap Turkish semi shotguns to high end AR.
Everything gone. No grandfathering or a new 12.###. Its all gone and sent to smelter.
You will get paid a market value of basically today. The gov wont be cheap in that regard.
Kiss every single black/red semi auto 5.56/7.62/etc as you line up to hand them in.
The funs over boys. All of it.
We can still tacticool Mosins and mag dump Lee Enflields so all isnt lost.
My prediction is outright ban/forces buy back of every semi auto long arm from cheap Turkish semi shotguns to high end AR.
Everything gone. No grandfathering or a new 12.###. Its all gone and sent to smelter.
You will get paid a market value of basically today. The gov wont be cheap in that regard.
Kiss every single black/red semi auto 5.56/7.62/etc as you line up to hand them in.
The funs over boys. All of it.
We can still tacticool Mosins and mag dump Lee Enflields so all isnt lost.
