Which is the Better Sniper Rifle: K98K or Mosin?

Both were acceptably robust,reliable and accurate and there are thousands of graves that testify to this.This is like re-roasting the old chestnut about the theoretical disadvantages of the Lee-Enfield as a service rifle-rear locking bolt,light barrel,rimmed cartridge,2 pc stock,blah,blah,blah,... The fact is that most major combatants invested considerable time and effort to develop small arms which would deliver results under service conditions and most were reasonably successful. There were some glaring failures of course,the Canadian Ross MkIII being a shining example!!
 
Simo Hayha shot 500+ Soviets [confirmed kills]most with a iron sighted MN 28 as far as 600 metres until hit in the face and being evacuated in the latter days of the War.At one point he was offered a Ajack scoped 96 in 6.5 but returned to his 28 He was small statured and prefered to shoot from the sitting position as not give the enemy much to shoot back at.Many more kills not confirmed due to conditions hostile to getting back alive.......Keep in mind the Finn MS have Sako and Tikka barrels and better ammo than the general Red's issued....................Harold
 
purple said:
There were some glaring failures of course,the Canadian Ross MkIII being a shining example!!
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Ah, but, wasn't the Ross a fine sniper rifle in WW1? (talking about something I know nothing, just think I read something somewhere about Rosses as sniper rifles)

Lou
 
Actually "White Death" was issued the Swede Sniper in the begining of the Winter War,but did not like having to lift his head high enough to use the scope. Most of his 534 documented kills came from the iron sighted M28 of Civil Guard issue,but he also liked using a Suomi. All this within a 3 month span. Oh ya,he also killed the lucky Russian Sniper that hit him in the face.
 
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The Ross was indeed a good sniper set-up and was used to great advantage by Cdn snipers in WW1,even after being discarded in favour of the more reliable Lee-Enfield as our standard service rifle in the trenches.While serving in Calgary in the early '70s I had the privilege of knowing an old gent who had served as a sniper in WW1.He was a modest and reticent man,but was a stout supporter of the Ross that he had used to good effect. My father was issued a MkIII Ross while training in early WW2 and had good things to say about it on the range.I once owned a MKIII in very nice condition and always found it to be a dandy target rifle.
 
Woodbeef said:
Actually "White Death" was issued the Swede Sniper in the begining of the Winter War,but did not like having to lift his head high enough to use the scope. Most of his 534 documented kills came from the iron sighted M28 of Civil Guard issue,but he also liked using a Suomi. All this within a 3 month span. Oh ya,he also killed the lucky German Sniper that hit him in the face.
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What what what ??!!! No sir he was not killed by a German sniper at all. Where did you get that??:mad:

Check your information before you post it here.
 
louthepou said:
Ah, but, wasn't the Ross a fine sniper rifle in WW1? (talking about something I know nothing, just think I read something somewhere about Rosses as sniper rifles)

Lou
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Lou,you are right about the Ross being used as a sniper rifle in WW1.
A Metis by the name of Henry (Ducky) Norwest used a Ross rifle with a cut down stock and a scope. I'm going by memory here, but I believe he had around 115 confirmed kills before being headshot by a German sniper three months before the war ended.
 
Do the Russians still use their Mosins?

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Wachbataillon der Bundeswehr on parade in Rome (Italy).
 
Since none of us are members of elite WW2 sniper teams. :rolleyes:

For a target and hunting rifle I'd take my Mauser.

For keeping me alive in the ####...or hunting in Bear country, I'd take my Mosin. :)
 
Presumably those would be with the swastikas ground off. That Italian crowd does not really appear too enthusiastic-and for good reason.It is truly ironic that the once unstoppable army which over-ran Europe twice is not now allowed to fight in Afghanistan.
 
Simo H???(sp)(pronounced hoe- ha was shot in the face by a Russian, whose country is stiil held in low regard by the Finns. They technically and legally were co-combatants not allies of the Nazis. They didn't buy into Nazism BS, but a chance to kill Russians presented itself and they called maybe 130,000 in the Winter War. A saying in Finland is' all Russians and Swedes are AO's.

Back to topic, the M98 is the greatest and most influencial action in history, still manufactuerd and copied to this day.

Regards,

Peter, Lapua in Canada
 
Skirson, good arguement on the AK! How about 2nd overall and 1st in class?

I really don't mind being told, my wife "tells" my eveyday!

Regards,

Peter
 
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