Who is buying a Type81?

Hi Claven2,
My blade has a stainless finish and the edge is really dull. I cannot cut thru cardboard with ease. If I sharpen the blade, does it break the hardened surface of the blade ? I am not an expert on this so any insights will help. thx

Also, I can confirm that the hilt and pommel are cast alloy

Should be cast steel. Try if it's magnetic.

Should not affect hardness, but bayonets are not meant to be sharpened - they are stabbing weapons.
 
AFAIK, according to my TQ1 training, we were told that a sharpened bayonet violated the Geneva convention.

Never did delve into that, just knew we were NOT to sharpen them, period.
 
Claven, thanks for your observation.

The ring on the barrel that the bayo sits on is going to be an inch further from the bayo lug

As long as it doesn't pass the land and fall into the grove, it should work after the stub is cut off. It may rattle more without the stub I suspect.
 
I got my two today.. My envelope was opened and resealed by CBSA.. looks like a bunch came in the same shipment?? .. And mine was opened to see what"s up with these kitchen wares from Hong Kong...
Can't complain about these bayo's.. now if they fit?? Great buy..

Mine was not opened, it was probably exrayed , looking for fent from China, lol.
 
I posted on this a while back. My guess from size comparing internet photos would place the muzzle ring roughly where the red line is in this photo.

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Depending on how tight the actual lug secures the bayonet will determine how much slap it has.... It's not like I actually plan on running my 81 with a bayonet on it the range. I more or less bought it and the bandolier just to have them as a package with the rifle.
 
I posted on this a while back. My guess from size comparing internet photos would place the muzzle ring roughly where the red line is in this photo.

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Depending on how tight the actual lug secures the bayonet will determine how much slap it has.... It's not like I actually plan on running my 81 with a bayonet on it the range. I more or less bought it and the bandolier just to have them as a package with the rifle.

I'm afraid you might be right on where the ring may end up.
 
To summarize, if I may, "It's Chinese issue kit, it was built to function as a weapon, not to look good" - that about right?

"Cheap, inferior, and disposable, like the soldiers it was issued to"....that sounds about right to me lol.
I've never seen an issued cast bayo....ever. The only cast knives/swords/bayos I've ever seen have been the "fantasy" variety junk, even the cheap replica #### is forged steel (made in china of course).
 
AFAIK, according to my TQ1 training, we were told that a sharpened bayonet violated the Geneva convention.

Never did delve into that, just knew we were NOT to sharpen them, period.

Good old army urban legend BS lol

The truth is a dull Bayo causes way more damage, also less chance of troopies cutting their faces on parade...
 
"Cheap, inferior, and disposable, like the soldiers it was issued to"....that sounds about right to me lol.
I've never seen an issued cast bayo....ever. The only cast knives/swords/bayos I've ever seen have been the "fantasy" variety junk, even the cheap replica #### is forged steel (made in china of course).

SA80 bayo is casted.
 
Good old army urban legend BS lol

The truth is a dull Bayo causes way more damage, also less chance of troopies cutting their faces on parade...

I always thought it was odd that it would be against GC, for that very reason, in bold. Seems a contradiction. Second point, makes good sense as the real reason they did not want us to sharpen them. As I noted, I never did delve too deep into the GC to disspell the myth.
 
Bayonets are only good for opening ammo cans or cutting kielbasa. Oh, and it looks cool on the plate carrier tactically attached in "handle down" position.
 
"Cheap, inferior, and disposable, like the soldiers it was issued to"....that sounds about right to me lol.
I've never seen an issued cast bayo....ever. The only cast knives/swords/bayos I've ever seen have been the "fantasy" variety junk, even the cheap replica #### is forged steel (made in china of course).

Mike:

It might not be evident from the photos, but the blade is almost 1cm thick at the base - it's nearly a cruciform. It's heavily built and robust - you have to hold one in hand to understand what i mean. In photos, they look puny and delicate. They are not delicate or small in person.

Also, FWIW, there is no technical reason a good bayonet can't be cast that are later machined and heat treated. Very few things are forged any longer. Typically they are either cast and machined, or machined from billet.

Materials science has come a long way since the 1960's. FWIW, every steel Ruger gun in existence is investment cast, machined, x-rayed, and then heat treated. I don't thing Rugers are known for critical failures attributable to their manufacturing process (high tech casting).
 
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