Who makes the best .45

Claven2 - you know you are never going to enjoy thtat pistol of yours so out of compassion alone. Trust me no other motive - you can send that POS pistol to Terrace. I'll see that it is properly disposed. Given my stance and like for C 68 it may be awhile before I notify the CFO.

I am surprised yo got past the CFO in your province with your obvious dislike for Canadian currency. Upon receipt of your pistol I'll be more than happy to refer you to a Financial Advisor who specializes in making smart investments. You obviosly need help in this regard.
 
Janeau - If memory serves me correctly we have had four deaths this year from bears. One in Ont., one in Alberta, one in Manitoba and one here in B.C.
I am afraid people just don't understand that we represent about 175 lbs of free lunch. Easy to catch and tasty if left to age as Grizzlies are prone to do. Anybody who owns a handgun and doesn't carry while in the bush is to dumb to own a gun IMHO. I carry a shotgun as well but when I am fishing shotgun gets put down and may not be with me if bruin shows up unannouced as they sometimes do.

Well shoting a bear at 7 yards maybe all the distance the SOB gives me. Oh I have fear alright...fear of dying, know I will one day but it sure as heck isn't gonna be because some black bear thinks I'm lunch. FYI a Grizzly bears heart beats about once every 1.5 seconds when they are upset. At close range you either make a head shot or spine shot on the bear or a head shot on yourself. The bear just isn't going to bleed out fast enough before you are toast. That is the bad news, the good news that the odds are the bears will leave you alone. Just that bears are not real big on Gov't statistics. They are short sighted and can't read. LOL Kind of like the federal Liberals only the bears have brains to shoot at.
 
You do not need to spend $2300 to $5000 to have a great 1911. Just to buy the right one in the right quality range with the features you want, right off the bat.
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IMO buying a cheep gun to upgrade/rebuild it is not worth it…if you look hard enough you can find a stock gun that has what you’re looking for. And for lower price at the end…

I think Norincos are a good choice if you know that you want a cheap gun and don’t exact it to perform like a $1000+ firearm.
 
Nine said:
I am wanting one of those Norc commanders... maybe I'll get one to tinker on for the winter.... :mrgreen:
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I have been wanting one of those for a while!! Every time one comes up on the exchange I miss it by a few minuites!!
 
Canuck44,

LOL : I like the .45 ACP , but in bear country, I will feel a little bit less scared if I had a .454 Cassul, a Ruger .480 or any BIG caliber !!

There is accidents here every year. The bears seem to like joggers..

:)

PS : Did you think about converting your .45 ACP into a .45 Super. This is an easy conversion - springs and brass if I remember well. Never too much power for BIG critter !!
 
Janeau - two calibers noted are big and powerful but are to slow for follow-up shots and the guns are to heavy to pack. I am not hunting bears, if I were the guns you mentioned would be perfect for the job. I am trying to avoid bears, and there is a difference. My .45acp at close range is effective enough and I can hit what I am aiming at. Bears and cats like Joggers but they are not accidents by any stretch of the imagination. They are events that are going to take place if you travel in bear country. Nothing has changed in the bush from 100 years ago, just most of us live in cities and have a Walt Disney view of nature.
 
Me too! LOL Of course if you do you can just phone Allan Rock and ask him for advice. He probably would tell you Bears don't bother people...people bother bears and no doubt deserve to suffer the consequences. Just those gun fanatics spreading rumours and fear amongst the population.

"Jogging for your health" a Discovery Channel Special brought to you by The Bruin Inn home of fine dining.
 
I spent 10 years in Peterborough and I know all about your squirels. Had a friend their lost an arm and leg in a squirel attack. Keep it locked and cocked!

Stay Safe
 
Canuck44 said:
I spent 10 years in Peterborough and I know all about your squirels. Had a friend their lost an arm and leg in a squirel attack. Keep it locked and cocked!

Stay Safe
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Here at our London Branch at Securicor we have been issued MP5K's to stop the threat of squirel attacks in the downtown vicinity of the park!! We have lost afew good men and women!!lives trajically taken by the MAN-EATING SQUIREL!!
 
You folks keep up the good fight. We just have the pigmy version out here. Nasty little critters. Pick um off with 30-06's when we can. Got to look into a 480 Ruger for those close encounters along the fence line. Jeez a guy can't even go out at night anymore.
 
Holy #### this thread just turned into another bear defense thread :roll: . IMHO, a pair of Ruger 22/45 would be my choice :evil:
 
Kimber, STI

Airborn_69 said:
I would agree with Kimber also!
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I would have to agree with either Kimber or STI, I have a Kimber Tactical Custom II that feeds anything I put in the mag, even an empty case and it's extremely accurate to boot. The STI's are also very accurate and also very well made, I have the Edge, Ranger II and 2 Trojans, 1 in 9mm and one in 45, they are a little fussier with feeding but they group well and are very dependable as long as you load factory ammo and well made reloads. The Super Match II by Kmiber to me is the best gun you can buy for the money, quality is just as good as a Wilson for roughly half the cost. It is an extremely accurate 1911, I have had Colt's, Detonics, AMT's, Desert Eagles, a slew of S&W revolvers, and I would dare say thet the Super Match II is the most accurate one of the bunch if you want to get technical, the 5 shot factory target is less than a 1 inch group at 25 yards. Pretty impressive, the only drawback to the Super Match II is the long wait as they are all custom made to order.
 
Best 1911? Wilson definetly, STI, Kimber, of course. Can't believe how good my S&W 1911 Tac/rail, turned out to be. Hey have you considered taking a look at the SIG P226 X five under 2" groups @50 yrds! (I know its not a 1911), but it shoots better than some high $$ customs.
 
Well, I do have to jump in here :)

The Norinco barrels are indeed throated and feed swc's just great, at least the ones we've gotten over the last couple years. Ramped barrels are neat but not needed at all in .45acp. Progressive rifling? Did I hear progressive rifling? Where do you get that? Gain twist rifling is available in a very few match barrels and its value is really debatable in a pistol. Maybe better, maybe not, but pretty pricy.

I'm in no way saying a Norinco is better than an STI. I sell a lot of both, and yes, you get what you pay for. Is a tuned, kitted-up Norc for under $600 a good deal? You betcha! Is it the best bang for the buck in a 1911? Well, maybe not any more...

Of course, we need to talk about the new STI Spartan. Now here's a gun that blows any Springfield, Kimber, Para, etc. 1911 in the under $1000 range decisively out of the water :) At $719 shipped.... Well, at least I pay the shipping, I don't know if other dealers do...

In the end, though, "the best 1911" is really subjective. The best for IPSC Open Division? The best for concealed carry? The best over $3000? The best for pure target shooting? The neat thing is that all these can be had in a 1911 - and also the best all-around shooter with adjustable sights and phenomenal accuracy for well under $800 landed. OK, another plug for the STI Spartan. I'm shameless :)

Gunnar

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Janeau said:
No this is the wrong way. You do not make a first class gun by starting with poor quality gun. note also that the Norinco are Mill spec gun and do not have the improvement of the modern 1911 : to name a few, ramped and troated barrel, progressive rifling and the like. There is just too much to do to tighten things up and parts to change that this is not worth the money.

Save you money and buy yorself a nice Springfield or S&W.
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DARKSTANG said:
Here at our London Branch at Securicor we have been issued MP5K's to stop the threat of squirel attacks in the downtown vicinity of the park!! We have lost afew good men and women!!lives trajically taken by the MAN-EATING SQUIREL!!
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I work in London for a while most years, and I agree. The attack squirrels in Victoria Park are vicious man eating beasts. You need at least a 45 for a fighting chance, a 9 or 40 won't even slow them down. - dan
 
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