Who wants a non-restricted Beretta CX4 Storm?

You"ll have to disregard my last post about a new shipment of Storm's with non CX4 marked magazines. I must have been having a blind day. I looked at the same gun today and it has the usual CX4 markings on the mags. Sorry :|
 
The regs are pretty clear that if the mag was originally designed as a handgun mag (which the CX4 mag is), then it's a pistol mag. I really don't see that they would have any sort of legal leg to stand on that a Beretta 92 mag marked "CX4" isn't a beretta 92 mag anymore simply because of a stamping on it. If I were to mark a Sten mag with some mark, it's still a sten mag, right?
 
If I were to mark a Sten mag with some mark, it's still a sten mag, right?

Not really. The Dlask DAP601 machine pistol uses Sten mags. The mags are pinned at 10 rounds because it is a pistol and not a rifle.
 
Not really. The Dlask DAP601 machine pistol uses Sten mags. The mags are pinned at 10 rounds because it is a pistol and not a rifle.

Ok that is interesting... I was looking at making a 223 boltaction rifle that used AR15 mags like the Armalon rifle but the CFC said that they would still have to be pinned to 5drs as they where designed for a semiauto rifle.
 
HeVGunner said:
The regs are pretty clear that if the mag was originally designed as a handgun mag (which the CX4 mag is), then it's a pistol mag. I really don't see that they would have any sort of legal leg to stand on that a Beretta 92 mag marked "CX4" isn't a beretta 92 mag anymore simply because of a stamping on it. If I were to mark a Sten mag with some mark, it's still a sten mag, right?

Well if the CFCwanted to make a case, they would go to Beretta and ask if the mags were made for the CX4 Storm. Answer, yes, that is why they are stamped for the Storm, because they were made for the Storm. Slam dunk case in my opinion. Remember, although we like to very technical about things, the determinations made by the CFC and forensics experts are very often based on company advertising and the word of company officials.
 
Glockhead said:
Well perhaps could reveal who "the right people" are so we can verify the validity of your claim as I don't see any evidence here. I have provided the sources of my information and I stand by it firmly. BTW, Storms and Police Carbines continue to be shipped daily with their 10 round mags intact including the CX4 marked version. Haven't been any raids yet that I know of yet.

I have a bunch of consignment guns in the store. They are 12(6) and they have not been reregistered. No raids yet. I see people coming in every day with unregistered long guns wishing to sell or register them. No raids yet.
The reason is that the CFC does not have the resources nor is there the political will to wage a war against gun owners right now. The point being made by those that are concerned is to avoid problems down the road. If you choose not to that is fine. I certainly think this matter deserves some caution.
 
I thought it would be interesting to compare older versions of the FRT to the latest version in regards the mag capacity of the more established Ruger Police Carbine and here's what I found. The FRT always lists every available magazine capacity for a give firearm including hi cap mags. Each capacity level receives it's own unique FRT # which is actually the same number with a dash number added to it, examples: Five round might be 4706-1, ten round might be 4706-2 and fifteen round might be 4706-3. When checking the older FRT on the Ruger, it showed three different capacities as in the examples above. When I checked the new FRT, I found that the five round capacity mag and it's number had been REMOVED! That's right. There is no longer such a thing as a five round Ruger Police Carbine and you cannot register one as such. This also applies to the long standing Marlin Camp Carbine. This proves that the government did change the law to allow 10 round pistol caliber carbines. Note that the gun has to accept commonly available pistol magazines. If you have an AR-15 9mm, you are out of luck and stuck at 5 rounds. I hope this clears it up.
 
RePete - What is the "Cougar"?

Redleg - Wouldn't that argument that the mags say "Storm" just outlaw the mags that come with the rifle, rather than the rifle itself? Genuine (not stamped storm) Berretta pistol mags would still be fine.
 
greentips said:
You cannot convert a restricted firearm to a non-restricted by just swapping barrel yourself and have it verified. The barrel swap has to be done by someone with a manufacturing license and verified by such.
Not true, but the problem is, if you do it yourself, how do you get it to the verifier?
I had this problem with my Krinker Plinker. It now had an 8" barrel, but the cert said "Over 18 inches"... so was it dangerous driving it to the verifier without a "valid cert"?
hmmmmmm.
 
Soooo anything new happen. I was looking at stuff on the cx4 and saw this and thought "How do I get money for one of these babies?". Anyone done this yet?
 
greentips said:
You cannot convert a restricted firearm to a non-restricted by just swapping barrel yourself and have it verified. The barrel swap has to be done by someone with a manufacturing license and verified by such.

not true ive changed several m1 carbine barrels here at home then got an att as its still registered as restricted an ive 30 days to change that. gone to a smith had them headspace it and re-reg it as non restricted

Ive never had any problem Ive got several m1 carbine stripped recievers on the way registered as restricted that i will be putting a non restricted barrel on

ill see if things have changed

im not manufactureing anything
 
I so didn't need to see this topic! :mrgreen:
Dang! Now I want one! :mrgreen:
Please Keep us posted on these Bad boys.

Also I don't know about the verifiers in other areas of Canada, but I know our local ones would come to your house to see one of these Rifles. :mrgreen:

Also edited to add:
Why not contact Berreta and ask for a 2" longer barrel, and that #92 Pistol Mag's be shipped with it?

I have never heard of a Firearms company turning down a custom order, and perhaps it might also make them think about a Mod just for our Market...supply and demand folks.
 
I love mine... leaving in 45mins to shoot :mrgreen:
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Non-Restricted and 10 rounds... it's a no brainer... :D
 
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