Why all the hate with 6.5 Creedmoor

Sounds like you should have bought a Creedmoor not a 308. Given your high praise.

I have probably a dozen 308’s. Mostly factory but a few custom chambers. They weren’t hard to get to shoot.

I’m not going to endorse something I haven’t owned because of the marketing.

I have enough guns as is and probably more than I need esp in that "deer cartridge" section. As good as it is, I'm not selling old favourites just to move in a 6.5. For now I will stick with the archaic 257Roberts and 275Rigby, both of which would be surpassed by a slew of more current cases.

That 308 may become a 358Winchester some day, thus the purchase. There is nothing wrong with the 308 as is though. It's a very good choice for deer and heavier game and I do expect this one to shoot well.
 
Gotcha.
Headstamp, neck angles, BC, cartridge oal, throats, have only become vitally important for a hunting cartridge since the marketers say it has.
 
I like the 22-250. It's one of the VERY best varmint cartridges out there. Many of the current crop of manbunners out there will go right past the 22-250 in favour of the 22CM.

The 284 OTOH is yet another so called "short action" cartridge that does not fit well in a short action so that one is a big FAIL! The 280 in a LA is a better choice. :)

I just now measured up 5 different 0.308" run of the mill hunting bullets (Hornady, Nosler, WW) for OAL in a 308 I just got. Each and every one of those bullets measured well over 2.800" OAL to get to the lands. This bugs me and is where the 6.5CM excels.


Yup your not wrong ! I’m buildIng my 6.5 x 284 on a Rem long action and I’m going to build my new 284 on a Tikka T3 action
My current 6.5 x 284 is built on a HVA. Action . RJ
 
You avoided my question ....... "How's the selection of new rifles and ammo for the 6.5x55?" (Please don't get out the flamethrower, just pointing out and in good fun. :) )

I don't buy factory ammo either as I load for a small list of older, somewhat oddball chamberings most of which cannot be easily purchased here in NB. I don't even own a 6.5CM but do have a 6CM which I chose over the 243 because of magazine length constrictions in the latter.

Presently, on line, you can likely find as much 6.5 x 55 as you can CM; pre Covid, there was lots more CM because everyone wanted a piece of the pie. From a home-loader's perspective with the Swede; we have never had such a great selection of bullets to chose from.
 
I like the 22-250. It's one of the VERY best varmint cartridges out there. Many of the current crop of manbunners out there will go right past the 22-250 in favour of the 22CM.

The 284 OTOH is yet another so called "short action" cartridge that does not fit well in a short action so that one is a big FAIL! The 280 in a LA is a better choice. :)

I just now measured up 5 different 0.308" run of the mill hunting bullets (Hornady, Nosler, WW) for OAL in a 308 I just got. Each and every one of those bullets measured well over 2.800" OAL to get to the lands. This bugs me and is where the 6.5CM excels.

I'll second the .22-250!
 
Well I'm a complete noob to rifle cartridges. Until last October all I'd shot was .22lr and 9mm, besides a bunch of airguns. But a surge in my crypto investments in October gave me an excuse to buy the rifle I'd been hoping to have for more than a year; the Sig Cross, which a friend encouraged me to buy in 6.5Creedmoor, though I'd been leaning towards .308. I'd thought the heavier bullet of the latter would be a safer bet for hunting, whenever I eventually get around to doing that, but my friend had seen a number of larger game hunts successful with 6.5CM and he felt it would be more fun to shoot with the reduced recoil, so I went with that.

Finally got a proper scope for it a couple of months ago - a Vortex Viper 5-25x FFP - and the other day got out to shoot it for the first time. Took me 9 shots to get on paper (apparently my laser boresight didn't do a very good job), but once there, didn't miss again. And I enjoyed shooting it a lot! Very easy rifle to shoot. It has a little kick, but nothing alarming, not as sharp a kick as my TNW ASR frankly, and that's not very hard to shoot so I'm happy with recoil. I'll have to get a more solid bipod as a Caldwell was pretty wiggly. Best I could manage was the last 4 of 15 total shots inside 2.75" from my 104 yard position, and most of that spread was due to the bipod balancing on my backpack with my bicycle helmet inside to raise it up for a seated position. Not exactly ideal, but I was shooting from river rocks and couldn't find a more comfortable and stable position. Shots 14 and 15 were touching and felt solid, while 12 and 13 I definitely felt the gun move a little as I squeezed, so I'm very optimistic about printing some tiny groups in future.

I have a small selection of factory ammunition to try, favouring the heavier types. Will take another range session or two to see if this barrel has a favourite. But the two types I tried - Barnes Vor-TX 127gr and Hornady 147gr ELD Match - both seemed to shoot about the same at this short range. Mostly I have S&B 140gr, at a decent price thanks to Reliable, so hoping that one proves adequate.

As a novice to rifles proper (the PCC doesn't really count - but it's a hoot to shoot and still my favourite) I've been following this thread with interest, hoping to learn a little. The snobbery around 6.5CM is something I've noticed in various forums for years and it still seems confusing. Many people saying it's easily enough for elk, but then so many others almost seem to treat it with a dismissive air, much the way some say 9mm is totally useless, or .22lr basically like shooting a kid's pellet gun. Such exaggeration seems unwarranted, and frankly, looking at the ballistics of most 6.5CM bullets, it looks like more than enough for anything on this continent, with decent shot placement of course.

Anyway, carry on bickering if you folks like, and I'll keep an eye out for useful information in the clutter.
 
I was with ya until this, " Such exaggeration seems unwarranted, and frankly, looking at the ballistics of most 6.5CM bullets, it looks like more than enough for anything on this continent, with decent shot placement of course."
 
I was with ya until this, " Such exaggeration seems unwarranted, and frankly, looking at the ballistics of most 6.5CM bullets, it looks like more than enough for anything on this continent, with decent shot placement of course."

How so? With many, many elk, moose, bear, being dropped cleanly using 6.5Creedmoor, what am I missing? Dismissive comments like this with no effort made to prove the point seem only to muddy the waters. If there's good reason to think over 2,000fpe muzzle energy is insufficient, with a bullet not a lot different from a number of other bullets in weight, diameter, length, and profile which have proven effective for big game hunting (not talking about elephants here), then I'd like to see that reason. Is this just some sort of p!ssing contest, or is there a logical reason, which someone can express clearly, that a bullet travelling at over 2,500fps can't kill an elk or moose? I'm all ears.
 
Not a liberal but have used enough and killed enough to know that YouTube is a poor substitute for actual hunting experience.
 
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