Why all the hate with 6.5 Creedmoor

pathfinder76 said:
So why would I pick the Mauser if buying a 6.5 today?
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While mine happened to be a new manufacture Mauser (Zastava) (I like controlled feed and #### on open and really, really slick mirror bluing), there are many other to chose from: Tikka T3, Sako 85, Mauser 18, Zastava M70 and more if you looked. BTW, these are either designated 6.5 x 55 SE or 6.5 x 55 SKAN, which are higher pressures than standard 6.5 x 55

The majority built in NA are cheaply made plastic push feed rifles.
 
Meroh said:
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Lots buy the 6.5 creed based on hype, and look for it to fix their accuracy issues, when the issues are not always the tool, but often are the operator.
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Conversely, if you know you've bought a quality rifle and scope, and ammo capable of respectable groups at a mile, then you know you can't blame anything on your rig and it's time to step up to the plate and start performing the job that has to happen behind the trigger. I know I'd rather be behind a rifle that's challenging me to do my best than be trying to coax performance out of an old inaccurate wreck!
 
Bottom line is the 6.5 CM is a great little TRUE short action cartridge with Very mild recoil and Good small - medium size game Killing power !
Nothing More -Nothing Less ! RJ

Also remember that a 140 gr bullet sent from a 6.5 CM or a 260 REM or a 6.5 x 55 Swede at within 100 fps of each other or from whatever cartridge kills the same as each other does . It has nothing to do do with what cartridge it was shot from .
Animals are unable to tell what cartridge they were shot with .

In other words none of these cartridges kill better then the other - it’s ALL about the bullet and shot placement when there shot at nearly the same FPS.
 
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Engineered better? Please.
Marketed better.

These arms and ammo makers are in a race to the bottom. And they’re all winning.
 
Buckmastr said:
Plastic rifles with stickers, and the 6.5 Creedmoor usually go hand in hand. And same with this “groups at a mile” talk.
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Ha yes, you can buy something cheap in any caliber, but I went upmarket at least to the point it says Tikka on it and isn't their cheapest model either. And knowing that the rifle can reach way further than I can and that there's a lot of literature and accessories and everything else for accuracy with 6.5 Creedmoor it's something I can grow into and learn a lot on the range with.

There seems to be a lot less in the market for other calibers, at least as far as long-range precision is going, so it does appear to be a solid choice for a shooter starting to learn how to reach out there this decade.
 
I'm not going to write much. This is my favorite caliber and the best shooting rifle I've ever had. I doubt if I will be able to get to the limits of this setup.
One image says more than hundred of words do.


Well, 1st week of June I took a 350LB black bear.

The shot was easy one, just some 80 yds. Same Sako ammo, both lungs, edge of the liver and even touched the surface of heart leaving a hematoma. The exit wound was same 2", generous blood trail, etc. But bears are tough guys, that one made 200 yds into the taiga, which took me about 1 hour to recover him. Here is a vid for those who curious to know more details. Sorry for the narrative in Russian, there are English subtitles though.
 
And a buck was taken from 240m distance. He walked only 2..3 yds after the Sako Gamehead bullet hit him, which was complete pass through btw. The entry was at the last rib of right side, the exit hole was about 2" and in the middle of left side of rib cage.

...why there are so strict limits to post images here on CGN...

I have a picture where my bullets touching each other at 270 yds - this is the farthest shooting distance which we have on our wild range.
So the 6.5CM has excellent energy and flat trajectory.
 
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iron cat said:
That depends on the discipline.
Cat
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Exactly. There are still quite a few guys shooting 6.5s in the comps I shoot, but as 6mm projectiles have improved and guys have trended toward lower recoil for spotting their shots, the various 6s are by far the most common choice.

SuperCub said:
I always thought the 6.5 was favoured by long range shooters. Are the needs of target shooters and LR different?
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If the practical field matches/NRL Hunter type matches continue to grow in popularity- and they will- I think the medium capacity 6.5 & 7mm will regain much of their popularity. It's basically impossible to meet the NRL Hunter 'Power Factor' requirements with a 6mm, so there are more 6.5mm/7mm than in the competitions without that requirement.
 
I was a 308 fanboy for... well forever. It was always the one cartridge that I went back to. I did switch for awhile to a 6.5 Creedmoor. Killed many deer and black bears with it without any issues. Eventually though went back to a .308 although only because the rifle I wanted was specifically in 308. When I signed up for Rob Furlong's Precision Academy though, I rebarreled my rifle to 6.5 Creedmoor since it was easy, fast, and cheap in the limited time I had. Now that it's coming upon moose season I've been debating on throwing the old 308 barrel back onto the rifle instead of using 6.5 Creedmmor for hunting moose. I haven't hunted Large Game with the 6.5 Creedmoor to know how it will do. I have dropped moose with a .308 though.
 
Buckmastr said:
Competitive shooting sports have as much in common with hunting as does golf.
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yeah, as a hunting round in 6.5 goes , the Creedmoor will do it, but it would not be my choice for a hunting build, but then I doubt if you will actually see me in the field with a short action or even a bolt action , so cartridge length isn't in the equation for me LOL.
Cat
 
Buckmastr said:
Engineered better? Please.
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The CM OAL is short enough to allow seating out longer bullets further. This is not an accident.

Most of the 308 based cartridges get bunched up in a 2.8" 700 magazine. I like being able to seat out bullets to the lands. That's why I had my 257Roberts done on a long action.
 
SuperCub said:
The CM OAL is short enough to allow seating out longer bullets further. This is not an accident.

Most of the 308 based cartridges get bunched up in a 2.8" 700 magazine. I like being able to seat out bullets to the lands. That's why I had my 257Roberts done on a long action.
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You can shorten up the case, lose capacity so you can dangle the bullet. Or seat the bullet a bit deeper in a bigger case. 143’s seat fine, shoot fine out of a 8T 260 at 2.8
 
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