Winchester Model 71 ####

contaucreek said:
I need a favour guys. Could someone please post a closeup picture of the sling stud/ forearm tip of their deluxe please. Mine has a hole in it's bottom that suggests my rifle was a deluxe but due to the number of changes that were made to if I have a suspicion that someone tried to deluxify a standard. Also does anyone know just how the super grade stud was attached to the forearm tip, that might just tell me what I need to know. Screwed from inside, soldered, nut on the inside ? Many thanks ! Lots of ###Y 71's surfacing !
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Here's a couple of quick shots. the attachments are a little wider than standard so I had to go for originals. I've mentioned it previously, the detachable sling swivels cost me $100.oo, ;)but I 'needed' them:p.

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superspeed348 said:
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I sold this one a few years ago. Regretted it right away. Located it again quite by coincidence. It cost me a lot more to buy it the second time, but no regrets now. It has 3 factory special order features. 22H sporting rear sight, Noshoc butt pad and was ordered with no sling swivels. Oh, and Johnn, thanks for all the info you sent me a while ago. It was very informative and helpful.
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You're quite welcome. Glad you enjoyed. NICE rifle and 'looks' like an older relative of the one I have:). Nice low serial number.

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blasted_saber said:
But why?

Its not their gun. Its a Winchester, which unless im mistaken, was still producing rifles in 1987.

I dont see Remington going and producing Winchester Model 70s in a limited run. Their must have been some other reason?
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I believe that Herstal group, which already owned Browning, purchased Winchester(US Repeating Arms) the same year that the model 71 had their limited run. Miroku manufactures quite a few firearms for Browning due to lower manufacturing costs while still maintaining a high quality product. I'm no
expert though and stand to be corrected.
 
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contaucreek said:
The 1937 Bubba Special I picked up last weekend.

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No offense intended but I don't think the buttstock is a Model 71 buttstock. The profile is wrong, compare with other photos posted in this discussion. The design of the buttstock is one of the essential merits of the 71. It and the Savage99R have been said to be the most practical, quick handling hunting stocks ever designed.I have a "thing" about 71s too I'm afraid. If you get one, don't sell it, (unless it's to me;)) , you will regret it.
 
My gun has been restocked thats for sure, note the incorrect checkering pattern on the forestock. Johnn, does the cap on your gun appear to be flat where the stud is mounted or is the base of the stud radiused to fit flush ? can you tell how it mounted top the cap ? Thanks for the pics.
 
contaucreek said:
My gun has been restocked thats for sure, note the incorrect checkering pattern on the forestock. Johnn, does the cap on your gun appear to be flat where the stud is mounted or is the base of the stud radiused to fit flush ? can you tell how it mounted top the cap ? Thanks for the pics.
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I assume the cap you speak of is the forend cap and sling attachment? The attachment point, wider than the standard of what we see today. Not really a stud but rather a wider or elongated attachment point hence the need for 'special' detachable sling swivels. As to how thatstud/attachment point is fixed to the cap, I'd be guessing. If it isn't a machined integral part of the cap, it 'looks' like it might be attached to the cap in a similar fashion as the dovetail set-up used to attach a front sight to a gun barrel. I say that because if you look closely at the end closest to the wood of the forend on the right, It appears to be curved in shape, just like the slot in a gun barrel where the front sight slides in. That's my guess.
 
Just thought I would share some interested trivia with you folks that I just learned and which amazed me.
I recently picked up a book written by a couple knowledgable Winchester collectors I know in the US. In the introduction, one of the authors was talking about Winchester exhibition shooter Herb Parsons. I have not seen any of the video of Herb, but I guess he was incredible. Anyway, this is the neat part. The author went on to mention the old movie Winchester '73 with Jimmy Stewart in it. In one scene - maybe some of you will recall - the two brothers competed in a shooting contest to win a Winchester model 71 1 of 1000. The contest came down to a coin tossed into the air and shot by Stewart to win the rifle. That shot was actually made by Herb Parsons who stood behind Stewart just out of camera range. You would think that shot was made with a 22 rifle such as the Model 63 which was a favourite of Parsons for trick shooting, but it was not. It was made with a Winchester Model 71 Cal 348!! Both the rifle and coin are on display at the Buffalo Bill Museum of Firearms in Cody, Wyoming. Given how accurate my 348 is, I can see it!
Just thought I would share that with you all.
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That's a good bit of trivia, will have to keep a eye out for that movie. A good read is Francis E Sell's Advanced Hunting On Deer and Elk Trails, he was a big advocate of the 348. I found my copy on Amazon, well worth the 20 bux I paid for it.
 
338 winmag said:
That's a good bit of trivia, will have to keep a eye out for that movie. A good read is Francis E Sell's Advanced Hunting On Deer and Elk Trails, he was a big advocate of the 348. I found my copy on Amazon, well worth the 20 bux I paid for it.
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I picked up 'The American Deer Hunter' by Francis E. Sell and he makes mention of the 348 WCF there as well. Elmer Keith was also pretty fond of the caliber as well, but expressed the view he thought it would really come into it's own with heavier bullets like a 250gr.
 
I have that book as well Johnn, also his book Small Game Hunting in which he mentions hunting with a Marlin 39a, but found the one I mentioned above was the best of the three. I lucked out and found a barely used 1968 39a fairly recent, his writing is definitely a bad influence on me.
 
338 winmag said:
I have that book as well Johnn, also his book Small Game Hunting in which he mentions hunting with a Marlin 39a, but found the one I mentioned above was the best of the three. I lucked out and found a barely used 1968 39a fairly recent, his writing is definitely a bad influence on me.
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Elmer Keith has the same effect on me. I've mentioned it in other threads but In the mid 70's a buddy and I spent a day visiting him in Salmon Idaho. A very memorable day. I snapped a quick picture of him posing by my truck & camper as we were about to leave. Note the holster on his hip.

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;)An item showing the impact of his effect on me arrived today:D.

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338 winmag said:
Nice, auction sale ?
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Nope. Starting with Sixguns, I've gradually over the years picked up most of his books, one of which I purchased on the visit to his home in Salmon Idaho. With my 4" model 29, I thought it only fitting to get an appropriate holster which I made arrangements for the purchase of from Milt Sparks. Sometimes the smaller details are, as in this case, the icing on the cake:).
 
contaucreek said:
Model 71's in my opinion were overlooked from a collectors standpoint until lately, just witness the meteoric rise of their cost....if you can find one.
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Sadly though, once they are no longer ORIGINAL and have been dicked and humped with, or drilled and tapped for other rear sights, reblued, etc, etc, etc, the Collector Value goes right out the door down to Shooter Grade Value.
 
Nice pics and thanks for posting. I've been down on the coast for quite a few years and I still miss that country. I look forward to, when I get the opportunity, to make trips back to our cabin at Bowron Lake. That'll be my Moose draw attempt for the coming season/
 
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