Wk180c issues and problems

jjohnwm said:
A good go to war rifle? Seriously?

This is a budget-priced, utility-grade rifle for semi-auto fun use by recreational sport shooters, and it succeeds admirably in that role. It is not meant to "go to war" unless you are declaring war on coyotes and ground squirrels.

I liked mine very much as a fun gun, and sold it only because the novelty of this type of gun always wears off for me...but I had several hundred rounds of enjoyable shooting with it. If I "go to war" with a rifle like this, it will be right after I finish my Nascar career using my 12-year-old Honda Element.
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That's a good one. By go to war, I mean it has proven to be consistently reliable overtime. I'm in my 60's, so if I go to war, someone will have to push the wheelchair while I carry and aim the rifle.

Not everything is literal. I heard about the way you drive. A honda element has far too much horse power for the likes of you....lol.

And by the way, the original AR180 upon which this rifle is based, was designed as a weapon of war. They tried selling it to the US army but if failed to be adapted during two military trials. It lost out to the M16. It was subsequently marketed by Armalite as a weapon system that could be used by the military of emerging nations with limited fabrication technology as a "go to war" rifle. The nation could use and modify existing screw and stamping equipment to manufacture the rifle domestically for their military. The original upper and lower receiver as well as most of the components were fabricated from sheet metal stampings.

It was also designed by Eugene Stoner and Miller of M16 fame, so it's not your average bean shooter.

So the go to war heritage and design is there. Maybe not so much in the actual execution.

You may be using it as a pony for carnival rides, but this baby has the lineage of a racehorse.

Sorry, I have to go. That darn squirrel is back....let the war begin.
 
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cr5 said:
FX-9 is another good option in the $1000ish price range if you want to keep costs down and shoot 9mm
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You may even consider the ruger PC9. Had one and sold it. Take down, very reliable, interesting recoil mitigation technology (Not much recoil with 9mm regardless), but it was a ##### to clean. Kind of ugly. Too many bits and pieces in the bolt assembly for my taste.

Only problems encountered was failure to fire. When shot from the bench it would occasionally chamber a fresh round but the trigger was dead. Didn't seem to matter if the ammo was hot or mild loads. Pulled the rifle tight into the shoulder, to mitigate but had no affect. It fired every time when shot standing. Read on the net that people have encountered that issue. I used it to shoot steel from standing, so didn't affect me.
 
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Cee-8 said:
So to beat this concept to death, here is another example. The VZ58 rifles are limited to 5 round magazines by law. Now if someone created a VZ58 pistol and designed a new magazine specifically for the pistol version of this model, then it could legally have a capacity of 10 rounds. So these pistol magazines could be purchased and now used in a VZ58 rifle. With this magazine in a VZ58 rifle, you could legally shoot 10 rounds. I know there was talk of someone trying to do this, but I believe the RCMP was or did put a stop to it. Hope that explanation was better. So that is why you can use 10 round pistol magazines in the Ruger PC9 , and keltec Sub2000 pistol calibre carbines.
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Ustauk said:
On the WK181-C thread, someone mentioned they hoped a U.S. pistol-sized variant mentioned in the Code of Arms Shot Show Video about the WK181-C would allow a 10 round AK-47 compatible, WK181-C pistol magazine labelled in Canada. I can't see Wolverine and Kodiak selling this variant in Canada, though, as submitting it for RCMP classification might risk causing the RCMP to name the whole WK "family" as restricted,or worse, prohibited.
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Over on the Code of Arms Video WK181-C thread on Reddit, user Krazee9 posted the following:
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I doubt it. The LAR was a lucky mistake that they're not going to make again. See: CZ-858 pistol.

The site's gone, but a dude imported a Vz 58 pistol. The RCMP declared the magazine "dual-use" and mandated it pinned to 5. Pretty much any future guns are going to encounter the same thing.
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So LAR-15 and XCR Pistol magazines are "grandfathered" under their prior approvals, but I agree with Krazee9, going forward any new pistol magazine that also fits a "scary" rifle will be marked as dual use by the RCMP and limited to five rounds. So having a WK181-c pistol and its associated stamped magazines imported to Canada wouldn't help get 10 round AK compatible magazines, and I think Wolverine and Kodiak are right to be wary in selling any restricted variant of the WK in Canada, lest the whole family be named as restricted, like the AR family.
 
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It works both ways.

The same pistol magazine loophole that permits us to use 10 round LAR magazines in our centrefire semi automatic rifles, also bit us in the butt. It was responsible for the prohibition of the 25 round 10-22 magazines. All us pro gun fellows couldn't stop patting each other on the back at the victory, but we sure screamed foul when they dropped the butler creek magazine prohibition on us. Can't have it both ways. Funny the way things work.

Like someone stated on a previous post, it just makes Canadians better at magazine changes.

I wasn't aware of the dual use designation to be used by the RCMP. So that door has closed. Thanks for the update.
 
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Look on the bright side, Justin won't be making anymore stupid anti gun legislation in the next couple of months. He's going to be too busy keeping himself out of jail.

What is that old saying, "It's hard to remember that you came to drain the swamp, when your up to your butt in alligators".

Happy days!
 
my gas piston rod broke for my wk 180c, anyone else experience this? part of the rod wound up in the receiver and dropped out freely when I dropped the magazine
 
tobaman45 said:
my gas piston rod broke for my wk 180c, anyone else experience this? part of the rod wound up in the receiver and dropped out freely when I dropped the magazine
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There have been a couple of others posted on here somewhere who had the same problem. Contact Kodiak they will take care of it.
 
Receiver wiggle?

Seen a few people discussing an o-ring to eliminate the upper receiver wiggle... What o-ring are they all referring to? I don't see such a thing in my spare bits baggie...

My apologies if this is already answered elsewhere!
 
And by the way, the original AR180 upon which this rifle is based, was designed as a weapon of war. They tried selling it to the US army but if failed to be adapted during two military trials. It lost out to the M16. It was subsequently marketed by Armalite as a weapon system that could be used by the military of emerging nations with limited fabrication technology as a "go to war" rifle. The nation could use and modify existing screw and stamping equipment to manufacture the rifle domestically for their military. The original upper and lower receiver as well as most of the components were fabricated from sheet metal stampings.

The AR18 was a select fire military rifle not the AR180/180b which was a semi automatic civilian version. See history of in Wikipedia —-Dieseldog!
 
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