would h&k be a good choice?

holy, atrs makes really awesome rigs, but they are not cheap, as expensive as your hk, maybe just a little less.

if you have 4-6k to spend on a rig + optics then sure go for it bro, you will not regret it, but dont get into debt for that stuff...

I always bought ducati for motorcycles until I bought a bmw, now I will never touch ducati again.

Moral is, if you want an HK get an HK and deal with the issues of HK, just like I dealt with the ducati issues, till I got fed the fack up of italian facking crap and bought german.
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mikethebike said:
holy, atrs makes really awesome rigs, but they are not cheap, as expensive as your hk, maybe just a little less.

if you have 4-6k to spend on a rig + optics then sure go for it bro, you will not regret it, but dont get into debt for that stuff...

I always bought ducati for motorcycles until I bought a bmw, now I will never touch ducati again.

Moral is, if you want an HK get an HK and deal with the issues of HK, just like I dealt with the ducati issues, till I got fed the fack up of italian facking crap and bought german.
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With the only difference being Hk is german. So in the same way as Once you went BMW you looked at ducks and said yech(Still adore the panigale as much as I am a S1000rr hp4 fanboy) once you go Hk, everything else seems... inadequate :)
 
Brian46 said:
Just trying to help the guy out, He is only ever going to buy one rifle he states and has been looking at HK, If he buys something else I can guarantee you he is still going to wonder if he should have got the HK and end up buying it down the road and selling the old one.
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No worries Brian46 I wasn't trying to give you a hard time, but just wanted you and others to realize that the OP had asked for advice for other rifles then just an H & K AR rifle.

I'm sure anyone would be pleased with the quality and performance of an H & K AR, however it might prove more sensible to buy a decent quality $1,000+/- AR before stepping up to the plate for a top end AR. Much like many activities/hobbies from Performance Sports Cars and Performance Motorcycles to Power-Boating or Skydiving (parachuting) etc. etc.
What I mean is a lot can be learned from starting at the lower end of a sport and working your way up, no one w/o excellent assistance makes the right choice the first time regarding optimum equipment in any sport where equipment plays a serious part and that includes the shooting sports.

Cheers D
 
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H&K make a brilliant piston AR, but it's faaaaaar more rifle than mere mortals need...

I suggest you buy a Daniel Defense and spend the left over $3000 on ammo and glass... It will more than service your needs unless you are rappelling out of choppers on a regular basis...
 
H&K are awesome rifles....so are KAC, Noveske, LMT, etc.... They don't feel remarkably heavier than a DI rifle, and they are no less proprietary than KAC. I own or have owned pretty much every AR on the Canadian market, and The MR223A1 is top notch...you won't regret buying one, and if you can afford it you should do it... Comparing an H&K to Noveske or KAC is no different than comparing BMW to Mercedes or Audi, I say "get them all"
 
Think about how you will be using it and how much money you are willing to spend, than buy your AR accordingly. If you spend the time and read all the AR posts on this forum you will soon discover that each brand has it's own following from Norinco all the way up to HK, just like everything else high cost doesn't always mean quality nor does low cost means it is crap.
 
Maple Leaf Pilgrim said:
Totally missed the point kid. :rolleyes:

-S.
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Who are you calling kid?
Seriously your choice of words is provocative and ignorant there Sir! You have clouded this thread with a lot of hot air. The op wanted an HK and instead of you commenting on HK rifle itself you have only taken the opportunity to push him into another brand. You are not the only soldier on this board there , perhaps you should take a hint.
 
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Stoner99 said:
Who are you calling kid?
Seriously your choice of words is provocative and ignorant there Sir! You have clouded this thread with a lot of hot air. The op wanted an HK and instead of you commenting on HK rifle itself you have only taken the opportunity to push him into another brand. You are not the only soldier on this board there , perhaps you should take a hint.
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I made no comment whatsoever regarding the firearm in question. I made comment that, side handed as it may be, was intended to help people think about the phrase, "guns don't kill people, people do". The man who took out Neptune was using an HK416, a tool. Nothing more.

Now I shall leave you to your path.

-S.
 
bear cat said:
Hey guys I know very little about black rifles. Shot a handful of them and I'd like to get my own.

What is the civillian or canadian version of the hk 416? Or what would you guys suggest as a good semi auto rifle?

I will probably only ever get one. I say that now but it probably won't happen haha. Take me to school gents.
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Bear Cat whether you're planning on spending $1,000 or $10,000 for your dream AR rifle set-up the best idea for you would be to get out and go shooting with more AR rifles while doing more research. Only then will you be able to determine exactly what calibre, barrel length, gas system, sights, furniture, accessories and optics you'll want for the type of shooting you plan to do and for exactly what brand/model rifle you actually end up with.

Like I stated earlier there's nothing wrong with an H&K AR rifle (well besides getting parts for them and perhaps a slight weight issue compared to some other premium AR's) as they are very reliable and accurate rifles and are made as a premium quality piece of kit that anyone would be proud of. Some of us here just want you to know that their are equally good or possibly better choices w/o even considering the thousands of dollars you might save at time of purchase.

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The op wanted an HK and instead of you commenting on HK rifle itself you have only taken the opportunity to push him into another brand.
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I don't know why some posting on this thread think the OP is actually stating he MUST have an H&K and only an H&K.

Sure the OP asks what is the H&K 416 civilian counterpart, but then adds what would you guys suggest as a good semi.-auto. rifle.

Which is why others (and myself) have posted up names of quality AR's (to consider) at prices that are less then half of a civilian model H&K AR rifle and other premium AR rifles that are arguably superior to the H&K, again for less money too.

Regardless of all the bickering here, I hope you 'Bear Cat' do post up a pic. of the AR rifle you buy and a comment or two on what you think of it.

Cheers D
 
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OP,
We are waiting with bated breath to see your new AR. After almost 80 posts and heated discussion, I hope you don't end up buying a Norc, DA or NEA..( not that there's anything wrong with them!) Just that when you talk HK and buy lower end, its a bit of a let down.
 
Stoner99 said:
Who are you calling kid?
Seriously your choice of words is provocative and ignorant there Sir! You have clouded this thread with a lot of hot air. The op wanted an HK and instead of you commenting on HK rifle itself you have only taken the opportunity to push him into another brand. You are not the only soldier on this board there , perhaps you should take a hint.
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Maple Leaf Pilgrim said:
I made no comment whatsoever regarding the firearm in question. I made comment that, side handed as it may be, was intended to help people think about the phrase, "guns don't kill people, people do". The man who took out Neptune was using an HK416, a tool. Nothing more.

Now I shall leave you to your path.

-S.
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